Hamas targeting groups and clans in Gaza

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Hamas appears to be preparing to exact vengeance on those opposed to its rule in Gaza. This will come in the form of mafia-like murders of those Hamas claims are “collaborators.” It will target clans and groups that have shown opposition to Hamas. It will also target those that have worked with Israel, or who it accuses of working with Israel.

A Telegram channel linked to Hamas said the group would target “collaborators.”

The BBC reported that “Hamas recalls 7,000 fighters to reassert control over Gaza as fears of renewed internal violence emerge following the withdrawal of Israeli forces. The mobilisation has been widely anticipated as uncertainty grows about who will govern Gaza once the war ends - this is a key sticking point for later phases of Trump's plan.”

Hamas has long used mafia-like gangland tactics to keep people in check in Gaza. This goes back to how the group emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Hamas leaders such as Yahya Sinwar were known for brutally murdering “collaborators” back then. Sinwar is dead but his tactics live on. Hamas has lost a lot of its larger weapons but it retains AK-47s and can use them to murder people. Videos have already emerged of Hamas allegedly murdering people.

The brutality of the organization has also been revealed in a New York Times article that shows how Sinwar and Hamas planned to murder Israelis and burn communities on October 7.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-870096

Hamas are awful but it’s important to understand this www.analystnews.org/posts/how-israel-helped-prop-up-hamas-for-decades

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Go back and look up the original proposals and proposals over time.... which kept being rejected

The history plus the intentions behind both Israel and Hamas should be understood, neither want a 2 state solution so on that they agree and both want the other obliterated.

BBC seem to have the most accurate portrayal of what is happening.

Medical sources said 19 Dughmush clan members and eight Hamas fighters had been killed since fighting began on Saturday.
It looks like they are killing each other but law and order needs to be restored before it starts impacting on the civilian population. I guess this can happen when you arm Palestinian clans. There is a power vacuum and this is when international peace keeping forces are needed to oversee the aftermath of death, destruction, starvation and the breakdown of a society where nothing is currently functioning. Palestinians cannot be abandoned at a really critical time

But Hamas don't hide in hospitals???
The Dughmush Family were taking refuge in what was once a hospital obviously no longer functioning as one now:

However, a source from the Dughmush family told local media that Hamas forces had come to a building that once served as the Jordanian Hospital, where the family had taken refuge after their homes in the al-Sabra neighbourhood were destroyed in the recent Israeli attack.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5e551j593o

The actions of any group killing is an issue, obviously. This is happening all over the world. You have private groups armed to the teeth by private funders in mainland Europe. The focus should be on the two state agreement and negotiation, between Palestinians and Israel. Because that will bring peace. Hamas backers have said that this is the way forward. It is better to focus everything on that.

Hamas has said that its activities are to draw attention to the plight of Palestinians on the international level. We should be focusing on a two state solution which their backers agree to as that will logically, realistically, stop the problem.

It is obvious really. Anything else here is mere smokescreen.

So, Hamas is not the primary issue, and it won't be an issue at all if there is peace.

And to the people who say "you can't negotiate with terrorists" the same people talk about how well Blair did in the GFA - which was negotiation with terrorists. So let's stop saying that, and focus on a genuine peace negotiations which get an outcome which is fair and reasonable.

Trump has said he favours a deal in which both sides (Palestinians and Israel) give a bit to get a bit. In fact for issues such as these, where people are involved, not just money and property, the best way forward is to completely and fully understand the interests, POVs, positions of both sides (Palestinians and Israel) and of stake holders (funders, both sides), make sure both sides fully understand eachother in the same way, decide on a way forward which is fair and reasonable and push that through. Whether it works or not is down to the good judgement, good communication skills and good negotiation skills of the negotiators. Good outcomes are possible.
(And good levels of protection for negotiators).

The Arab nations have seen a surge in anti semitism linked to the actions of Israel in Gaza. Consequesntly they are reluctant to get involved in sending troops/keeping order without a mandate from the UN. Otherwise they could be accused of annexing Gaza in a similar way.

In recent decades, the only deals on the table have been where Israel maintains full security ie blockades, soldiers and this has been rejected by Palestinians (but has still happened).

I wonder why Israel felt the need for blockades?

I’m racking my brains. Didn’t something happen about 2 years ago?

A prominent Gazan commentator posted this today:

"Hamas Scandal: Part of why the terror organization is going after multiple clans is that a particular clan in southern Gaza had members involved in securing humanitarian aid convoys near the Rafah areas, who stumbled into a despicable act of Hamas’s evil. Throughout the war, leaders and terror operatives of the group in Gaza have been taking advantage of vulnerable Palestinian women in desperate need of humanitarian aid and support by exploiting them for sexual favors, as was recently reported by the AP and confirmed by this newly revealed video, which promises to be one of many. Hamas charity heads leverage their positions to provide women with support in exchange for sexual favors. They would go on to film and take photos of the women in compromising positions to ensure they remain silent. This particular video shows Ameen Bakr AbuBakara, whom Hamas recently killed horrifically, because he caught one of their leaders in a compromising position, filmed him, and documented his scandal. Ameen did not publicize or reveal the scandal. He covered up what he encountered because he did not want the woman to face retribution in an honor-driven society where women can be killed for adultery, even in the case of rape. Instead, he promised the woman free, full support. Still, he made her pledge that she would not provide sexual favors to Hamas members or mid-level leadership in humanitarian organizations in the Gaza Strip. Once the ceasefire commenced, Hamas was keen to bury the scandal and made sure to kill Ameen to hide this disaster and many more like it. The cowardly so-called ‘journalists’ in Gaza, most of whom are directly or indirectly affiliated with Hamas or at least have the group’s approval to operate in the Strip, would never dare cover such stories, because they know what the outcome would be. Think about that the next time you hear about reporting coming out of Gaza and being touted by the fraudulent “pro-Palestine” movement, which now exists to run cover for the terrorist organization and justify its very heinous acts and evil deeds."

https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1977931787943756142

Appalling. A society where women can be murdered for adultery because they have been raped. There's no 'honour ' in that type of society, its despicable.

(Unverified) footage from today - Hamas Hamassing:

https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1977911693733986463

All eyes on Gaza?

Such a sweet custom.

I wonder how long the "pro-Pal" brigade will be able to go on saying they just want to live in peace, but Israel won't let them.

Hamas have been on a killing spree since the ceasefire, but the pro Palestinian side is silent about these deaths. No jews, no news I guess

It’s pretty chilling. Nothing on that.

Only to be expected I'm afraid

The blockades make life unbearable for Palestinians and continue the conflict. The solution is a negotiation around a 2 state solution which is the only thing which would lead to peace and would be fair to both peoples.

The blockades have been going on for decades, not for the last two years. The blockades make life unbearable for Palestinians and continue the conflict. The solution is a negotiation around a 2 state solution which is the only thing which would lead to peace and would be fair to both peoples. I hope that clears things up for you a bit.

Maybe they could have spent the past 20 years working towards peaceful coexistence, instead of perpetually bombarding Israel with missiles? Or made the most of the liaisons they had with Israel, instead of using collaborative art projects and so on to gather information to help guide Hamas's attacks on 7/10? A two-state solution seems like the obvious sensible solution for everyone, but I'm having a really hard time picturing it, unfortunately.

Slightly less than half of Palestinians support a 2 state solution.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/21/people-gaza-future-hamas-poll

I really think the sarcasm here is unnecessary. Do you mean Palestinian side? They have said that the fighting was against Israeli guerilla groups. I am not asserting that as truth, I am just saying that there has not been silence.

I find it disappointing and really sad to find all this sarcasm. It would be better to focus on what could bring peace rather than what these groups are doing.

Otherwise it just comes across that you are on an opposing side, and you want to be partisan. Which is the worst thing possible for anyone wanting peace.

While people are dying and starving and being blown up in Gaza, they are also talking to the Guardian and giving considered views about pros and cons of a political solution? I don't think so. Someone upthread has also talked about the BBC being there - in fact Israel would not let the press there because it was too dangerous for them and this has gone on for a while.

to respond to your point though, the ME states have said they support a 2 state solution, and it is those states which fund Hamas - you can see the significance - and the PLO has also indicated they support a 2 state solution as has Hamas leadership incidentally. ME states and people want a 2 state solution which is fair and reasonable. Only this would create peace in the region.

So that is what you should reasonably be supporting perhaps.

Forget "Pro Pal" forget "Pro Is" start "Pro 2 state solution" maybe.

Do you mean Palestinian side? They have said that the fighting was against Israeli guerilla groups. I am not asserting that as truth, I am just saying that there has not been silence.

The "Palestinian side" you refer to is the terrorist organisation Hamas.
And it's clan infighting, they're trying to reclaim armed power in Gaza. Anyone who believes it's "Israeli guerrilla groups" is.... well, I've seen the complete nonsense people have believed for the last two years do actually I'm not that surprised.

As for the blockade, it's an attempt to minimise the amount of rockets Hamas can make to lob into Israel. With Hamas still in situ and 7 October freah in the public mind, and the last living hostages just back, dont expect that to change soon.
The West might like indulging in suicidal empathy, Israel can't afford to.