Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

That seems to happen a lot...

Jehud means Israel not Jews.
Jihad means struggle.
Zionist entity means...

It's almost as if information is being manipulated ...just as well there are no bad actors on Mumsnet.

No, because it's been mistranslated.

I agree with this.

The images of children crying for food at aid sites were awful. I dont doubt them. I find in uncomfortable to think of childten starving while some were well fed.
The "food distribution system' in Gaza under Hamas clearly left a lot to be desired. There was clearly food there.

"I am personally proud of the 'ruins' of Gaza, and that 80 years from now, they will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did"

If this is the accurate translation it doesn't make her words any better. And this is coming from the 'minister of social equality' coming across as quite psychopathic.

For a long time now it has been under the GHF. The company who employed thugs from the US who openly stated how they hated all Muslims and much worst. The GHF that were operating death sites where Palestinians coming for aid were routinely gunned down.

Yes it’s hardly any better.

These are the anti-Islam thugs the GHF were employing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2zy4l8jgeo.amp

If you don't want to read the full article here is a snippet:

Infidels MC was set up by US military veterans of the Iraq war in 2006 and members see themselves as modern Crusaders, using the Crusader cross as their symbol - a reference to the medieval Christians who fought Muslims for control of Jerusalem.
The gang is currently hosting anti-Muslim hate speech on its Facebook page and has previously held a pig roast "in defiance of" the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
"Putting the Infidels biker club in charge of delivering humanitarian aid in Gaza is like putting the KKK in charge of delivering humanitarian aid in Sudan. It makes no sense whatsoever," said Edward Ahmed Mitchell, deputy director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a leading Muslim civil rights organisation in the US.
"It's bound to lead to violence, and that's exactly what we've seen happen in Gaza."

I think a Jew proudly using the word holocaust for something that they had done to another group of people would be incredibly, unspeakably abhorrent.

Which is why the rush to fact check that particular word.

The speech is awful, but pretending that was the word used is pretty grim.

I wonder how many of the executions Hamas is carrying out right now will be blamed on the IDF? I will never understand how so many in the west would welcome living under that kind of regime.

Further reports of the Hamas arrest campaign in Gaza City

https://x.com/HowidyHamza/status/1976951625781485581

Has any country beyond Trumpland bought into the Israeli narrative? I wonder what normal Israelis think of having that guy as their only ally?

Although many are held without trial It’s fair to say an overwhelming number of prisoners will have been found to have done something. Do we just release no prisoners during a prisoner release deal then?

Doubt even the most vocal pro Pals on MN would want to be living under that oppressive regime themselves.

Not for them, not for their precious children.

But it was apparently ok for Gazans to continue to live under Hamas since there was no mass call or protests to Get Hamas Out.

Yep. But it was always Hamas. There’s plenty of stuff on social media about them executing alleged collaborators.

Israel will release the exact number of prisoners agreed by the peace plan. But it’s almost like Hamas don’t get to dictate exactly what they want isn’t it?

They will need to get used to that fast and so will their supporters/apologists around the world.

Not their only ally.

For example the UK is still an ally of Israel.

Israel has many allies although (being democratic countries) they are free to criticise some of the actions of the Israel government and also free to call for a 2 state solution in Gaza.

I'd like to point people to the 2015 report by Amnesty International about Hamas's methods. Warning: it contains distressing photos.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/MDE2116432015ENGLISH.pdf

Hamas are not freedom fighters, they are terrorists, including agains their own people and pose a continued threat to peace in Gaza.

The idea that they want their 'fighters' to be members of any future Palestinian military who Hamas will hand their weapons to is just a continuation of the current situation.

So is your position that most countries are allied with the Israeli narrative? To be clear I’m specifically referring to support for the genocide in Gaza? Are you based in the UK?

The deal stated they would release 250 prisoners serving life. So that would include your terrorists presumably. Hence why it makes little sense to pick and choose at this late stage because terrorists are going to be released anyway, which rather makes your previous point moot.

Most western countries are allied to Israel.
There is no genocide in Gaza, hence the ceasefire. A real genocide would have resulted in the death of a million plus Gazans.

Try looking at the news, Israeli press and social media. They are delighted that a ceasefire has happened and the hostages are coming home. As any decent person is.

Ahhh I see so you believe that not enough people have been killed and persecuted to warrant the term “genocide” despite so very many people agreeing it is so? It’s a word. Outside of Israel it’s what we call the actions of Israel in Gaza, but we could use Carnage, or Slaughter, for now, if it means you can focus on the discussion more easily.
Is your position that Israel’s actions in Gaza are accepted and applauded in “the West” or indeed “the east”, “the north” or “The south”?

This!!

There doesn’t have to be 1 million deaths for it to be a genocide, thats not how it’s defined.

The reason the west are allied with Israel isn’t because they are the “good guys” it’s keeping an ally in the ME, money, power. They are all as bad as each-other.

Hamas are out and out terrorists who wan’t Israel gone, the Israeli government is a terrorist pretending to be good, who wan’t Palestine gone

Israel have committed genocide on the Palestinian people, Hamas are terrorists and have committed atrocities, they want money and power.

People stick up for the Palestinians because who else does? Not their government, not the world governments, they have been left to die with no place to escape because of greedy, evil men in power.