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Ihatetomatoes · 2025-10-02T18:38:13+00:00

There is a massive rise in anti semitism in the UK and other countries. Jewish people here have nothing to do with the conflict in Gaza, nothing at all. The rise in anti semitism is disgusting. Sending thoughts to the victims, their family and friends. No one should feel terrorised in the UK. People should feel safe here.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 09:55

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 09:24

To be fair this thread was posted in the Conflict in the Middle East section the op knew full well they'd be comments about Gaza. It's on odd place to post it if the soul aim was to show solidarity with Jewish people without anyone mentioning Gaza.

Despite the OP stating "Jewish people here have nothing to do with the conflict in Gaza, nothing at all."

Where would you prefer she posted?

I don't think she's wrong to post here if she wants to. I'm just saying it's inevitable that the main Conflict in the Middle East is that in Gaza. So if you post in this section it stands to reason that Gaza will be bought up

I actually think it's important to highlight the knock on effects of the current war on Jewish people (ie increased antisemitism) as well as the obvious impact on Palestinians living in Gaza.

The genocide isn't just bad for Palestinians,it's bad for Isreal as a country and Jewish people round the world.

Hamiltonfan · 03/10/2025 09:55

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 09:54

Listening to the radio this morning there was a woman who lived in Jerusalem saying she felt safer there than she had ever done while living in England (she'd grown up in London). She spoke about the antisemitism she and her children experience when they come back to visit the UK and it is crazy

I am not Jewish but if I could move to Israel I would. As a non-Jew I also think I'd feel safer. I don't recognise the hatred in this country, there's always been prejudice, don't get me wrong, but not like what the Jewish community are experiencing and I feel ashamed of being British, it makes me feel dirty, none of this is being done in my name and I hate paying taxes and contributing to a society that has let this mushroom. I don't want to be associated in any way with antisemites and the hatred pro-Palestinians have stoked.

It's happened because of weak successive governments and the media, SKY News referred to the Manchester synagogue as a mosque three times yesterday, it's insulting. Andrew Marr let a Palestinian spokesman calling the hostages 'detainees' go unchallenged. I can't imagine being a Jew in the UK right now.

And the hate marches have turned our cities into cesspits. One woman on a march yesterday said she couldn't give a f*ck about the Jewish community, this is just hours after the terrorist attack. No other minority would be subjected to this. Yet we're told how these people on the marches aren't antisemitic and just want peace and love

Not in my name. None of it.

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Thank you x

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 09:55

peepsypops · 03/10/2025 09:52

@PollyPaintsFlowerssorry but I think your comments are really offensive. There are many countries across the world who are standing up against the slaughter of innocent people in Gaza and therefore can be seen as “pro-Palestinian” are they in your mind “despicable”? Really?

Can you try and respond to what I actually said. Thank you

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 09:59

Well I hope this is ok to post. There is a video at the start where one of the victim's neighbour gives a very moving tribute. Adrian Daulby was a kind and caring man who would buy books and toys for the children on his street. The kind of neighbour that is seldom found in this day and age. I can't imagine what his family and friends must be going through right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

Two men killed in Manchester synagogue attack named - as police step up patrols

On Thursday, the force named the suspect as Jihad al Shamie - a 35-year-old who is believed to be a British citizen of Syrian descent.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:01

I actually think it's important to highlight the knock on effects of the current war on Jewish people (ie increased antisemitism) as well as the obvious impact on Palestinians living in Gaza.

Yes, nobody has touched on this before...

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 10:01

The neighbour describes Adrian Daulby as 'the best guy i have seen in my life'.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:01

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 09:59

Well I hope this is ok to post. There is a video at the start where one of the victim's neighbour gives a very moving tribute. Adrian Daulby was a kind and caring man who would buy books and toys for the children on his street. The kind of neighbour that is seldom found in this day and age. I can't imagine what his family and friends must be going through right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

That's heartbreaking

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:07

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:01

I actually think it's important to highlight the knock on effects of the current war on Jewish people (ie increased antisemitism) as well as the obvious impact on Palestinians living in Gaza.

Yes, nobody has touched on this before...

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

BlakeCarrington · 03/10/2025 10:08

Leoari · 02/10/2025 20:04

They said in their pro-palestinian matches ""globalise the intifada"..... this is the result. I feel real hate now for the British people who have been participating in these hate marches. They are only supporting Hamas/ Iran and are complicit in Deaths in Britain now.

Yes this is how I feel too. How have we come to this.

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:13

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

It's particularly important to labour the point on a day of a terrorist attack....

caringcarer · 03/10/2025 10:17

I was on a cruise ship when October murders and hostages were taken. I saw a Jewish family praying before their dinner and I went across and asked if I could join them in their prayer to show solidarity. Several people went across to them and they said they were grateful. I think the government should have banned the huge demonstrations by people supporting Palestine as some were openly wearing the Hamas logos. Yet nothing was done. The ones wearing those logos should have been arrested and charged with insisting violence.

quantumbutterfly · 03/10/2025 10:18

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 08:37

There's always a 'but' isn't there

So many empty words. Why even bother posting?

When worshippers were mown down outside a mosque, did anyone say blame Iran? ISIS? Al Qaeeda?

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Actually I think there was some talk about hate speech on social media and people waving flags that encouraged racism and that it should definitely be stopped. Down with this sort of thing etc.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:36

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:07

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

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Why? How does it help Jewish people?

ThisLemonHare · 03/10/2025 10:44

The whataboutery is disgusting. British people were murdered in Britain for being Jewish. Peaceful, law-abiding people whose existence was enough to make someone want to murder them. It's horrific. Sympathy and solidarity to all the Jewish people who feel even more vulnerable today than they already did.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:46

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:36

Why? How does it help Jewish people?

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Because if we don't recognise it then we can't fight against it.
Do you think ignoring antisemitism helps Jewish people?

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:48

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:46

Because if we don't recognise it then we can't fight against it.
Do you think ignoring antisemitism helps Jewish people?

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Why would I do that? I want to hear from Jewish people and give support.

As @SharonEllissaid let Jewish people speak, I’m here to listen.

This thread was about support.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:50

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:48

Why would I do that? I want to hear from Jewish people and give support.

As @SharonEllissaid let Jewish people speak, I’m here to listen.

This thread was about support.

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Well it's up to you how you want to support.
I think that recognising the increase in anti semitism is an important part of supporting the Jewish community.

If you don't agree then don't do it

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:52

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:50

Well it's up to you how you want to support.
I think that recognising the increase in anti semitism is an important part of supporting the Jewish community.

If you don't agree then don't do it

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Do you think your posts support Jewish people? Maybe listening to people experiencing what they are is better.

BurntBroccoli · 03/10/2025 10:54

HellsBalls · 02/10/2025 19:42

There’s currently a flash pro-Palestine protest in Whitehall.
Utter scum.

I think this was a global protest as Israel stopped aid boats.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/israel-stops-13-gaza-aid-boats-organisers-say-sparking-international-criticism-2025-10-02/

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:56

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:52

Do you think your posts support Jewish people? Maybe listening to people experiencing what they are is better.

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I think recognising an increase in anti semitism supports Jewish people. Lots of poster on here like to pretend it isn't happening or use the situation in Gaza as some kind of justification for it. I think it's important to counteract that.

I'm not sure where you are going with this or what the point you are trying to make is.

inamarina · 03/10/2025 10:57

GentleSheep · 03/10/2025 08:00

To respond by investigating it as a crime, find and arrest those responsible and put them through due process through the courts, ensuring the law was applied while also complying with international law. And send rescue parties to get the hostages back or better still negotiate their return.

Sounds so civilised doesn't it! 'Find and arrest those responsible' - in those hundreds of miles of labyrinthine tunnels? Yep, let's send a couple of teams, should do the trick. Negotiate the return of the hostages? What do you think has been going on all this time? Hamas never comply with anything. Plus the minute you find one terrorist and put them in prison another 10 will spring up and carry on the same work the first one was doing. Then, you try to negotiate and end up releasing 100 terrorists from your prisons just to get one hostage back, who by now is of course dead so you only get a body. Those aren't exact numbers of course but there are many news articles of the lengths Israel has gone to. Yet at the end of that, how much progress has actually been made? It's the stuff of nightmares.

It’s bonkers, isn’t it?
Just in the last two years Israel had to release over 2,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for less than 200 hostages, this is how Hamas operates.
And yet, people suggest that the perpetrators of October 7th should have been arrested and imprisoned.
How long would they’ve stayed in prison for, I wonder? Until the next round of hostages is taken?

GinaDav · 03/10/2025 11:05

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 09:00

I agree with the comments made by the Home Secretary on this:

Shabana Mahmood condemned pro-Gaza protests held in Manchester after the attack, saying they lacked "humanity" and were "fundamentally un-British".

Hmmmm, Shabana Mahmood. The one pictured waving Free Palestine flags, who chose not to vote on Palestine Action being proscribed as a terrorist organisation and demonstrated at her local Sainsbury’s in protest at them selling products sourced from Isreal? That Shabana Mahmood?

JazzyBBBG · 03/10/2025 11:05

Imagine this was the other way around and someone attacked a mosque. The outcry and civil unrest would be beyond belief (and yes I know this has happened before - I'm talking in the current climate).

I don't think the reaction from government has been strong enough. I appreciate there are facts unknown still but it needs to be entirely demonstrable that this will not be tolerated.

There will be more to come on this one. Just because he wasn't known to Prevent doesn't mean he won't have a criminal record or other issues. His name was Jihad FFS. You can't name your child Hitler but Jihad is acceptable.

quantumbutterfly · 03/10/2025 11:15

JazzyBBBG · 03/10/2025 11:05

Imagine this was the other way around and someone attacked a mosque. The outcry and civil unrest would be beyond belief (and yes I know this has happened before - I'm talking in the current climate).

I don't think the reaction from government has been strong enough. I appreciate there are facts unknown still but it needs to be entirely demonstrable that this will not be tolerated.

There will be more to come on this one. Just because he wasn't known to Prevent doesn't mean he won't have a criminal record or other issues. His name was Jihad FFS. You can't name your child Hitler but Jihad is acceptable.

I heard that kampf and jihad are apparently synonyms, there's a terrible historical echo to this rise in antisemitism.

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 11:21

GinaDav · 03/10/2025 11:05

Hmmmm, Shabana Mahmood. The one pictured waving Free Palestine flags, who chose not to vote on Palestine Action being proscribed as a terrorist organisation and demonstrated at her local Sainsbury’s in protest at them selling products sourced from Isreal? That Shabana Mahmood?

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Ok, ok … but I still agree with her comments after the attack.

The trouble with politicians is you can never tell if they’re being genuine or just reading someone else’s words.

But I agree with the words anyway.