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Conflict in the Middle East

Gaza Flotilla - genuine peace activists or Hamas puppets?

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TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 22:36

It has been reported that these activists have rejected the Italian government and the Vatican's proposal to unload any aid they are carrying in Cyprus, to be transferred peacefully to Gaza.

They seem intent on sailing into a legal blockade in a warzone as a direct provocation to Israel who will be forced to take control of 50 boats and the people on them.

They have made lots of unproven allegations that Israel has attacked their boats which may well be to precursor violent resistance in 'self defence'.

They could be carrying anything, including weapons.

There is quite compelling evidence of Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood connections to this so called humanitarian flotilla, which could be considered perverse in the extreme seeing as Hamas has caused the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

Hundreds of Israeli boat owners are being encouraged to counter protest in Navy approved zones (without interfering) as a presence 'a blue and white wall for the hostages'.

What do we think the outcome of this will be with Italian and Spanish Navy vessels in the mix?

This is quite a different situation than the ONE boat in the earlier failed attempt to breach the blockade this year where the 'activists' were peacefully appeased with sandwiches and sent on their way (after refusing to watch footage of Oct 7th).

Unmasking Extremism: The Hidden Networks Behind the “March to Gaza” Campaign

A campaign of so-called “peaceful solidarity” reveals disturbing ties to designated terrorist organizations.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

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minuette1 · 27/09/2025 22:48

Hamas puppets 100%

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 22:49

What the heck is that link?

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 22:50

Oh dearhttps://ie.trustpilot.com/review/www.govextra.gov.il

SharonEllis · 27/09/2025 22:52

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 22:50

What exactly in the article do you suggest is untrue?

CrossChecking · 27/09/2025 22:55

You could try reading about them?
https://freedomflotilla.org/our-approach/

1. We Challenge the Blockade – By sailing vessels to Gaza, we confront Israel’s illegal siege and demonstrate that this blockade constitutes collective punishment of a civilian population, violating internationally recognized rights, including the right to freedom of movement.

2.We Expose the Nature of the Occupation – Through peaceful, civilian-led missions, we reveal the violent and unlawful behavior of Israeli occupation forces. These include hijacking our vessels and forcibly transporting them to occupied Palestine , assaulting unarmed volunteers, and seizing personal belongings, and medical supplies bound for Palestinians in Gaza. Israel’s hostile responses to our missions reflect a wider, ongoing brutality inflicted upon civilians in Gaza on a daily basis.'

^ It's a little bit difficult to do these things by unloading aid in Cyprus. Maybe step away from the propaganda.

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:02

I think the fame has gone to Greta’s head to the extent she believes herself to be some kind of martyr who is humanity’s only hope of peace and prosperity.

Talks are on the verge of a breakthrough but are very delicate and anyone who isn’t a diplomat, politician, envoy or aid worker needs to stay the fuck out of it and stop agitating for their own conscience. There is absolutely zero point ‘raising awareness’ of Gaza, our awareness has been raised for 2 years now and there is nothing left to achieve that previous attempts have not.

I have felt for a while now this is turning into a proxy for Antifa and JSO types to take out their grievances against the British ‘establishment’, large corporations for ‘financially backing Israel’ etc rather than the plight of the Palestinian people.

Chicaontour · 27/09/2025 23:06

Remember all of the people the Israeli state executed while waiting at food stations. The flotilla is legally and legitimately challenging the blockage and the genocide perpetuated against the Palestinian people.

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:10

Chicaontour · 27/09/2025 23:06

Remember all of the people the Israeli state executed while waiting at food stations. The flotilla is legally and legitimately challenging the blockage and the genocide perpetuated against the Palestinian people.

What does ‘challenging the blockade’ even mean? They’ll attempt to access the Gaza coast, the Israeli military will intervene, and they’ll be returned to their native countries. End of. They’re not challenging anything, they’re just having yet another few weeks in the limelight. It’s like they can’t bear for the attention not to be on them.!

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:20

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 22:50

There's Trustpilot reviews for the Israeli government?

Whoever did that must have lots of time on their hands.

Anything in that link you think is false?

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ChattyGeePeaTea · 27/09/2025 23:23

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:10

What does ‘challenging the blockade’ even mean? They’ll attempt to access the Gaza coast, the Israeli military will intervene, and they’ll be returned to their native countries. End of. They’re not challenging anything, they’re just having yet another few weeks in the limelight. It’s like they can’t bear for the attention not to be on them.!

That's if they're lucky.

If they're not, like their predecessor Vittorio Arrigoni, then they might actually achieve their aim of getting to Gaza.

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:23

Chicaontour · 27/09/2025 23:06

Remember all of the people the Israeli state executed while waiting at food stations. The flotilla is legally and legitimately challenging the blockage and the genocide perpetuated against the Palestinian people.

How are they going to legitimately challenge a legal blockade and stop a war deliberately started by the very organisation who are running their little crusade?

Is there evidence Israel executed people waiting at food stations?

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Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:34

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:23

How are they going to legitimately challenge a legal blockade and stop a war deliberately started by the very organisation who are running their little crusade?

Is there evidence Israel executed people waiting at food stations?

From 1st of August I am sure many more have been killed since

“In total, since 27 May, at least 1,373 Palestinians have been killed while seeking food; 859 in the vicinity of the GHF sites and 514 along the routes of food convoys.
OHCHR noted that most of the killings were committed by the Israeli military, and that while it is aware of the presence of other armed elements in the same areas, it does not have information indicating their involvement in the killings.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

Gaza: Nearly 1,400 Palestinians killed while seeking food, as UN warns airdrops are no solution

Despite Israel’s 27 July announcement of daily military pauses in western Gaza “to improve humanitarian responses,” Israeli forces continued attacks along food convoy routes and near Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) aid sites, according to the UN hum...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:40

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:23

How are they going to legitimately challenge a legal blockade and stop a war deliberately started by the very organisation who are running their little crusade?

Is there evidence Israel executed people waiting at food stations?

How is the blockade legal?

surprisebaby12 · 27/09/2025 23:42

Israel are committing a genocide in Gaza. Can we just retire the Hamas nonsense- they clearly have very little power and they’re very much separate from the campaigners trying to end the genocide

SameOldHill · 27/09/2025 23:43

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:10

What does ‘challenging the blockade’ even mean? They’ll attempt to access the Gaza coast, the Israeli military will intervene, and they’ll be returned to their native countries. End of. They’re not challenging anything, they’re just having yet another few weeks in the limelight. It’s like they can’t bear for the attention not to be on them.!

Challenging the blockade means just that. Israel has threatened to detain them and block their flotilla from delivering aid and they’re trying to challenge.

They are taking a huge risk with their own personal safety. If they’re just after fame I’m sure there are easier ways to attract attention.

What’s wrong with delivering aid and why would Israel stop them? Surely the best thing would be to let them land, deliver the aid then let them leave. No drama or arrests needed.

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:43

SameOldHill · 27/09/2025 23:43

Challenging the blockade means just that. Israel has threatened to detain them and block their flotilla from delivering aid and they’re trying to challenge.

They are taking a huge risk with their own personal safety. If they’re just after fame I’m sure there are easier ways to attract attention.

What’s wrong with delivering aid and why would Israel stop them? Surely the best thing would be to let them land, deliver the aid then let them leave. No drama or arrests needed.

They know full well Israel will ensure their safety.

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:45

Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:34

From 1st of August I am sure many more have been killed since

“In total, since 27 May, at least 1,373 Palestinians have been killed while seeking food; 859 in the vicinity of the GHF sites and 514 along the routes of food convoys.
OHCHR noted that most of the killings were committed by the Israeli military, and that while it is aware of the presence of other armed elements in the same areas, it does not have information indicating their involvement in the killings.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

Ah @Everexpanding the guy quoted in the ops article said "there is no starvation in Gaza" so I am not sure why they were even going to aid sites, I am sure they could have just popped to the local shop.

( He also is quoted as voting against ceasefire deals..)

BelleHathor · 27/09/2025 23:47

Vittorio Arrigoni was kidnapped, tortured and murdered by an ISIS affiliated gang in Gaza (the same gangs that Netanyahu is currently funding https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-14/gaza-aid-looting-gangs-yasser-abu-shabab-israel-netanyahu-hamas/105501926 )

Prior to that he was living happily and integrated with the Palestinians in Gaza.

It appears that a Hasbara talking point has been issued as this is the 3rd time I have seen him mentioned today as some kind of propaganda gotcha on social media.

The 'uncharismatic, illiterate' criminal behind Gaza's aid-looting gangs

Violent gangs have been raiding convoys of aid as they are trucked through Gaza, and behind one of the largest groups is a criminal who has reportedly been armed and protected by Israel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-14/gaza-aid-looting-gangs-yasser-abu-shabab-israel-netanyahu-hamas/105501926

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:49

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:43

They know full well Israel will ensure their safety.

Just like in 2010.

quantumbutterfly · 27/09/2025 23:49

On the plus side whenever I hear the futilla mentioned I picture Greta leading a rousing chorus of 'in the navy' and getting hamasniks to dance in their costumes.

Apparently she's quite the crowd pleaser.

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 23:49

I don’t know how anyone could watch the news today and try to defend what is being done to the Palestinian people.

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 23:50

Or make pathetic jokes about the flotilla. I feel sick.

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:53

Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:34

From 1st of August I am sure many more have been killed since

“In total, since 27 May, at least 1,373 Palestinians have been killed while seeking food; 859 in the vicinity of the GHF sites and 514 along the routes of food convoys.
OHCHR noted that most of the killings were committed by the Israeli military, and that while it is aware of the presence of other armed elements in the same areas, it does not have information indicating their involvement in the killings.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

How does the UN know the IDF killed them all those people out of interest? What evidence do they have?

Hamas has been killing Palestinians since the war started to blame it on Israel. Especially at the the GHF sites which Palestinians were threatened with execution for using.

Do you think they didn't follow through?

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Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:57

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:53

How does the UN know the IDF killed them all those people out of interest? What evidence do they have?

Hamas has been killing Palestinians since the war started to blame it on Israel. Especially at the the GHF sites which Palestinians were threatened with execution for using.

Do you think they didn't follow through?

No one believes this “But Hamas” spiel anymore.

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