Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

[Everexpanding]

Good news. Political pressure, protests and letters beginning to work

www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/09/01/israel-to-market-war-bonds-through-luxembourg-as-irish-authority-expires/

No, I don't suppose you would.

@Everexpanding did you see Mary Robinson on the Late Late Show last night speaking about the famine and the ongoing conflict. She's amazing.

No I didn’t but have a lot of respect for her

Me too. Pity we can't have her back again.

Simon Sebag-Montefiore on the roots of Irish antisemitism
www.thefp.com/p/the-deep-roots-of-irish-antisemitism?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=organic-social

You seriously expect Irish people to trust the narrative of an English historian who writes for the spectator!

Do expand on why the limerick pogrom in 1904 has relevance to Irish criticism of a campaign of bombing and starvation in current times which has claimed the lives of 60, 000 people?

Shh your not supposed to mention what's happening at the moment, that's not important at all.

https://www.thejournal.ie/limerick-cannot-be-branded-antisemitic-says-heritage-group-6578157-Dec2024/

@SharonEllis would you agree with this section of the article you posted
”Since October 7, 2023, including in the immediate aftermath of the attacks by Hamas from Gaza and then Hezbollah in the north, the Irish government, backed by many activists in media and academia, has shown deepening hostility to Israel. No doubt there is a great deal of humanitarian anguish at the loss of civilian lives, both Israeli and Palestinian, in the war that began last year, and a belief in Palestinian self-determination and the creation of Two States, Jewish and Palestinian, alongside each other. It is true that some of the Irish hostility to Israel derives from the anti-British, anti-imperialist perspective of Irish history”
??

No understanding of the intergenerational trigger of occupation and starvation

Well yes, why wouldn't Irish people trust a British writer, unless they are mired in bigotry? Surely you're not suggesting Irish people are too prejudiced to trust a British writer? That's very disturbing as the British have held Irish writers and literature in high regard for a very long time, despite the politics of the last 200 years.

You may not be familiar with Sebag-Montefiore then but he is highly regarded. Here are some of his awards. Catherine the Great & Potemkin was shortlisted for the Samuel Johnson Prize, the Duff Cooper Prizd and the Marsh Biography Award Stalin won History Book of the Year at the 2004 British Book Awards. Young Stalin won the LA Times Book Prize for Best Biography, the Costa Book Award ,the Bruno Kreisky Award for Political Literature, Le Grand Prix de la Biographie Politique and was shortlisted for the James Tait Black Memorial Prize.
Jerusalem: The Biography won The Jewish Book of the Year Award from the Jewish Book Council.
One Night in Winter won the Political Novel of the Year Prize and was longlisted for the Orwell Prize

I posted it is response to everexpanding saying 'Bullshit there is no long history of anti semitism in Ireland'. A statement that is obviously untrue.
I don't think its a radical idea that prejudice and trauma in the past can play out through subsequent generations? I think its a concept well understood in Ireland.
Would you claim that segregation in the United States was irrelevant to race relations in the United States today?
If the potato famine and British colonialim still have relevance in Ireland, then surely the Limerick pogrom does too?

Thank you for posting, quite a fascinating article (history is all about debate). I'm not sure what you're referencing when you say 'what's happening at the moment'. The article is from 2024?

Rachel Moiselle has written quite a bit on the relationship of past and present.

Are you suggesting Irish people have a problem with English people too?

The two things appear to be linked actually as I’ve heard people say Irish people tend to have an affinity with Gazans because they believe they share a history of being oppressed.

Broadly speaking that seems a pretty un-controversial paragraph, yes. Irish people have told us on here over the last 2 years that 'Irish hostility to Israel derives from the anti-British, anti-imperialist perspective of Irish history' to use his words. That statement is backed up by @Pasly above who seems to think an Irish person wouldn't trust an article written by a highly regarded British historian published in a mainstream British publication. I can only assume that lack of trust relates to past British/Irish history as it cant be based on objective analysis of his credentials? I dont know if Pasly is Irish though.

Irish people are the problem not the country currently breaking International law, almost daily?? keep deflecting, now how do we explain all those Jewish people opposed to Israel’s current actions ???

“As a Jew, I understand how the crime of genocide reverberates for generations. As a rabbi, I am also horrified by the way the Israeli government is exploiting our sacred tradition to justify its brutal campaigns.”

is the rabbi quoted above anti semitic???

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2024/10/24/taking-direct-action-against-genocide/

Im sorry @Everexpanding but it is impossible to have a conversation with you because you twist everything that is said. You said it was 'bullshit' that Ireland had a history of antisemitism. You didnt have to say that. You chose to. Its untrue and you can expect to be corrected. That is not 'deflecting'. Especially when Irish posters draw on their own history to explain Irish alignment with Palestine.

Having introduced that topic yourself you don't now want to talk about it. OK. You've shifted the goalposts to identifying 'the problem'. There are lots of problems. A war is a problem. Soldiers on both sides committing war crimes is a problem. Antisemitism in Ireland is a problem. Etc. Etc.

Jewish people don't all think the same so those that oppose Israeli government actions will do so for lots of different reasons.

No, I don't think a rabbi is antisemitic.

@SharonEllis i do not twist things but I will argue when people post misinformation with the aim of excusing Israel’s actions and justifying the death of 20,000 children

You are wrong to state Ireland has no long history of antisemitism as evidenced by various historians. Its as simple as that. Noone is throwing 'antisemitism' about 'with abandon' as anyone readi g this can see.

Can I suggest you look into 'The Livingstone formulation'?

Please do illustrate with more examples except the “pogrom” that killed noone, i think if you are looking at long histories of anti semitism you might be better looking at other European countries, oh but wait they support Israel so no matter

No.