Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

[Everexpanding]

Good news. Political pressure, protests and letters beginning to work

www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/09/01/israel-to-market-war-bonds-through-luxembourg-as-irish-authority-expires/

I didn't post a post of his. I quoted some entirely legitimate quotes from an article he wrote in The Times, a newspaper respected around the world. There is no reason to believe they are incorrect and indeed @Martymcfly24 who is knowledgeable about Irish history has agreed that they are legit. I also mentioned in my post that he appeared to be an odd character. That does not undermine the legitimacy of the quotes in the context of a discussion about the history of antisemitism in Ireland.

You seem to struggle with civil discussion, preferring abuse and ad hom attacks. Im surprised (not really) that you have torn yourself away from meditating on the news about the enquiry in order to find something else to hold against me. But its a bit rich. You might take a leaf out of Marty's book who, despite us disagreeing many times is still able to hold a civil conversation about something that is interesting.

Sorry @SharonEllis i thought you would want to know the background to the source you quoted and that it is unreliable.

Yeah right.

sometimes what you see in your head is not reality

I have argued points with you @SharonEllis and contradicted your point of view, I have not insulted you

@Everexpanding you have been consistently rude to various people on this this thread, most notably doubling down on your accusation of 'bullshit' when people pointed out that there was a history of antisemitism in Ireland. Now, please, leave me alone.

bullshit is not a personal insult. There is not a long history and yes I do get annoyed when people claim opposition to genocide is anti semetic, as do many Jewish people.

Ireland and her Diaspora has a long history of both anti Semitism and anti Blackness.
Being colonised and hated by the Brits and Phil Lynott as the front man of Thin Lizzy cannot erase this reality.
Nor can the lie to cover the fact of Irish racism that the Irish were slaves in the West Indian and US colonies , when in fact they.were the Overseer Class who the Africans often took their English from.
And then there is the Famine / Genocide in Ireland that due to mass emigration to the US provided another strata of Irish Overseer Class in the form of root and branch , generational " take over" of US police forces and local government all over, but particularly along the whole of the East Coast , Indiana, Illinois, the Gulf South and LA.
This new Overseer Class manifested virulent anti Blackness and anti Semitism as an avenue to acquire US White status on par with the WASP ( look it up) class.
None of my family considered living in Boston and some rather chose Mobile Alabama when migrating to the US from Jamaica in the 70s.
This was due to the virulent, generational social and institutional anti Blackness in Boston mostly due to the "Boston Irish".

There was a joke about why there are hardly any Jews in the NYPD,( even as NYC has the second largest Jewish population in the world) which cannot be repeated here.

That you choose to deny Irish anti Semitism and do your version of " my best friend is Jewish" is the Racist's playbook 101.

How did you manage to catch yourself out by virtue of that played out trope?

@EasyTouch i have nowhere said my best friend is Jewish ??? Our intimated anything similar. No idea what you are saying there, please enlighten me?
I will not deny the role Irish immigrants to the U.S had in participating in racism towards Native American and African Americans and working as part of the overseer class as you term it. It is a deeply shameful part of our history and perhaps not discussed enough,
I think you are speaking from an American perspective? so perhaps understandable that you have not mentioned the racism Irish immigrants were subject to particularly in England, no blacks no dogs, no Irish the notable phrase. The prejudice Irish people experienced existed welll into my lifetime. The prejudice and negative stereotyping reflected in the lovely Mike Huckabees recent racist statement on the Occupies Territories Bill:

“Did the Irish fall into a vat of Guinness & propose something so stupid that it would be attributed to act of diplomatic intoxication? It will harm Arabs as much as Israelis. Sober up Ireland! Call @IsraelMFA & say you’re sorry!”

part of a bullying campaign by America to try and.make Ireland shut up

As to the claims that Ireland’s speaking out about the situation in Gaza stems from a) a long history of antisemitism in Ireland and b) anti semitism in our government . It is a bullshit smear. No proof provided on this thread because it is a baseless smear.

@EasyTouch one last question do you see evidence of racism in the Israeli state’s treatment of Palestinians? What is your take on the current situation there?

Could you stop lying please? Examples have been posted. Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean its bullshit. No I haven't written you a full essay. I started putting together various links but you and others have been so obviously unwilling to engage constructively that I decided it wasn't worth my time so I stopped

It was established by the Stephen Lawrence enquiry all complaints about incidents of racism should be investigated as such, when they are perceived by the complainant as acts of racism, this extends more widely into society. Jewish people Ireland are telling you they experience racism and are telling you that their society and government's approach to Israel is shaped by racism. I posted an article by Rachel Moiselle, for example. She described how her grandfshers store in Dublin was graffiti'd in the 1940s. (Yet another example of the 'long history', see?). In the present she describes how PFLP banners have been flown at Trinity (a proundly antisemitic and proscribed organisation Where were the authorities?) How crushing 'antizionism' in Irish society is for Jews who perceive it as an attack on their identity and potentially existence.

In 2018 Dublin Lord Mayor Mícheál MacDonncha attended a conference in Ramallah that celebrated Amin al-Husseini, the infamous Palestinian nationalist leader who collaborated with Hitler. The conference was held the day before Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day. Irish Jews were outraged.

The Jewish community asked Higgins not come to a Holocaust Memorial event because of his record. He ignored them, went anyway and indulged in a bit of Holocaust inversion.

Listen to them.

See also Holocaust Awareness Ireland on Twitter and Jonathan Eric Lewis's substack on Irish history and modern Irish pro-Palestinianism.

There's lots more. I'm sure you won't see or hear. Others might though.

I wasn't even looking but came across this.

Two things can both be correct- there has been a history of antisemitism in Ireland, and the state and people of Ireland raising concerns about genocide in Gaza at present time being nothing to do with antisemitism.

Unfortunately Jewish people have faced antisemitism in many countries- but that doesn’t mean all current criticisms of Israel are down to antisemitism.

I see Ireland, Netherlands, Slovenia, Iceland and Spain will boycott Eurovision 2026 if Israel is allowed to join. Does make a mockery of the event if it allows Israel to participate at the same time as the EU is thinking of sanctions against the country.

Noone has ever said here that all criticism of Israel in Ireland or anywhere else is down to antisemitism. Noone can sensibly deny that some criticism of Israel is motivated by antisemitism.

Netanyahu has united world governments (except US) in condemnation of what has happened and continues to happen in Gaza.

What is the purpose of thinking that this criticism may even be partially motivated by antisemitism?

I am trying to think of a reasonable benefit, and I can’t, other than for Netanyahu to ignore the criticisms being raised- and it’s not time for that. He is even being criticised in Israel for this.

Perhaps, but I very much doubt that the vast majority of the criticism Israel is receiving from Ireland at the present time is for this reason. There is a lot to be concerned about regarding Israel’s actions, to put it mildly.

I’m not denying anti-semitism happens and it is shameful. But I also think people make accusations of anti-semitism in an attempt to deflect attention from what Israel’s doing, in an attempt to defend the indefensible.
I think mostly that’s what’s happening here.

I don't give a shit about Netanyahu. The unwillingness to listen to Jewish people, the complacent dismissal of their concerns is really chilling.

This criticism is being levelled due to what Netanyahu’s government has done. He is the one now not listening to Israelis- Jewish people on the whole?

Criticisms against Israel will clearly have an impact on Jewish people- there’s no denying that as Zionism is understandably very important to some
of them.

I don't understand your point. Netanyahu is not the only one not listening to Jewish people. We are talking about antisemitism in Ireland and the UK, not internal Israeli politics. We are talking about historical antisemitism, which has been called 'bullshit' but cannot be denied. We are talking about how Jewish people in Ireland feel about antisemitism today. Nothing to do with Netanyahu.

Why don’t you give a shit about him?
The whole world should give a shit about what he and his government are doing.

You’re doing an awful lot of dismissing of concerns yourself and you’re ascribing legitimate objection to something it’s generally not.

I give up.

This.is.not.about.Israel.

This.is.about.antisemitism.outside.Israel.

I thought this thread was about what the Central Bank of Ireland did in the context of current concerns in Gaza? What Netanyahu does is integral to this?

Did you not read the thread title and OP’s posts?