@dairydebris Israel should care more about Palestinian lives because they are a western democracy and they are dealing with a group who could either live peacefully alongside them or be radicalised. Disregarding Palestinian civilians is only going to lead to more extremism.
@Gloriia Israel are the only grown up in the room. Hamas are terrorist. They only care about the cause. In fact, they will willingly die for it. They cannot be expected to play by our rules or be diplomatic or act with humanity (as seen on 7/10). Asking or protesting for them to surrender, or demanding they avoid civilian areas in Gaza (because that’s all Gaza is) is like telling Israel to use no weapons in the war. It is totally unrealistic and shows naivety re how terrorist operate. They give zero shits. Hence why they need to go. But not at all costs when that means civilians are suffering to such an extreme extent.
Is this dynamic unfair on Israel - yes, many ways it because the removal of Hamas is important. But they cannot act like terrorist. The thing that differentiates western democracies and terrorists is our actions. If we stoop to terrorists level we are no better than that. So Israel need to model what western democracies believe in - acting with humanity, respecting human rights and protecting innocent people even when pursuing terrorists.
I think arguing about the details of this incident are going to go round in circles and can feel frustrating because it’s such a polarised argument. It’s almost pointless getting personal and frustrated because we are using different sources to try and understand what’s going on. As @Twiglets1 explained, the IDF are adamant there was a surveillance camera (not, I believe, the reporter with a camera taking video of Gaza, a rifle sight that ‘spooked’ them into escalating the attack and then a second attack on a group of armed Hamas fighter. They felt 4 shells were necessary, despite being in the vicinity of a hospital.
We are going to disagree on this because we don’t all believe the source of this information. Personally, I don’t see it as fact and think it sounds like a whole lot of spin. I still find the argument that Hamas shouldn’t be in hospitals but Israel are okay to fire at one a really odd one. Both sides, in my opinion, acted with zero regard for innocent lives. Basing yourself in a hospital - bad. Firing 4 shells at a hospital - bad. I think the anti-Israel pile ons would be less intense if they stopped doing stuff like this. I’ve said it before but the issue is Israel’s behaviour not in people flagging it.