Gazan GHF workers left to die at hospital where Doctors Without Borders is.

[CyberStranger]

As stated by GHF spokesman Chapin Fay in the below interview with Channel 4 new presenter Krishnan Guru Murthy.

At 7.30 minutes in the video, Mr Fay stated 9 local workers were murdered and the 20 injured were refused treatment at Nasser hospital, where Doctors Without Borders were, and left to die in the courtyard.

These were Palestinians!

Why was there no outcry about this? It seems that they were refused treatment because they were working for GHF. That is shocking.

It was interesting that Mr Fay said GHF is funded by the US as well as several donor countries from Europe who don’t wish to be named.

The whole interview was an absolute car crash and the presenter was totally unprofessional and disgustingly rude IMO, sitting in a comfy newsroom while firing allegations at an organisation who’s workers are at massive risk, getting death threats, and are actually being killed for trying to get free (as it should be) aid to Palestinians and from the response from a lot them at the sites, they are needed.

I think it’s pretty obvious why there has been conflict outside of the aid centres TBH.

I commend Mr Fay on his patience I have to say.

A disgusting smear attempt from Channel 4.

I wonder if Guru Murthy will take up the offer to go into Gaza himself.

www.channel4.com/news/ghf-challenged-on-funding-and-gaza-aid-site-killings

Oh you heard that did you?

What has censoring independent reporting got to do with it?

Aid agencies wanting to operate in Gaza are now obliged to disclose donor details and complete lists of Palestinian staff for security vetting.

It's because Israel don't trust them not to employ staff who are affiliated with Hamas and tbh, that seems reasonable to me. The organisations seem to care more about data protection than getting aid into Gaza. But the IDF are fighting a war against Hamas so no, they don't want Hamas supporters involved in the delivery of aid.

They don’t have adequate pain relief for children with burns. Did you see video linked from Al Jaazera showing the circumstances around which medical care is being provided?

It would good if we could get independent journalists there, but in their absence- I have no compunctions in going with MSF’s statement. They are the ones trying to deliver medical care in extremely horrific circumstances.

They could have helped with restricting blood loss from those shot until they could be moved.

At the end of the day, that is your choice re "going with MSFs statement".

We don't know the facts from here so we're all basically just choosing who to believe. What I can gather from what I read is that there is an awful lot of hostility towards the GHF in Gaza and that extents to the people handing out aid.

I’ve read that aid article and it’s difficult to get a picture of what’s going on.

There’s a high amount of trucks going in but very few making it. GHF on the radio talked about Hamas attacking the vehicles.

Yes I heard it on the BBC radio. But the save the children website also goes on to talk about

“NGOs have made clear that sharing such data is unlawful (including under relevant data protection laws), unsafe, and incompatible with humanitarian principles. In the deadliest context for aid workers worldwide, where 98 percent of those humanitarians killed were Palestinian, NGOs have no guarantees that handing over such information would not put staff at further risk, or be used to advance the government of Israel's stated military and political aims.

Today, INGOs’ fears have proven true: the registration system is now being used to further block aid and deny food and medicine in the midst of the worst-case scenario of famine.”

Prior to Israel’s blockade, very little UN aid being siphoned off by Hamas according to Israeli sources. It had been working very effectively. This should not have been dismantled.

www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

But ultimately-it’s a balance of getting aid to starving people or not. Israel is preferring not to prioritise aid getting in

You know the GHF have not provided full details of their donors to the public either.

The NGOs have the right not to share the data on their sponsors or staff which they are exercising, (at some cost to the Gazans needing the aid).

Yet nearly 20 organisations have completed the registration process on their donors and staff, and are bringing aid into Gaza according to the BBC. Roughly 300 trucks of aid are entering Gaza each day now, though granted it's still not enough.

NGOs have the right not to do what Israel requires for the their security but equally, Israel has the right to deny them entry if they don't.

In addition @Stripes56 I'm sure the Israel government knows the details of the GHF donors so whether that information is known to the public is irrelevant. They will have been vetted.

Mr Fay also said by the UN’s own figures that 93.5% of aid trucks do not reach their destination inside Gaza.

I guess he’s lying again although that is easily verifiable!

https://info.un2720.org/

They include hungry civilians as well as ‘armed groups’ in the diversion of aid but I doubt hungry civilians stand much of a chance against armed groups. Could explain the deaths of people collecting aid which we are told is due to the IDF.

There is an awful video on X of an aid truck driver apparently being burned alive in his cab with seemingly no one trying to help him get out.

Also why are the UN not asking for support to ensure the aid trucks are reaching their destinations if almost all of them are being diverted?

Yes indeed, it does appear Israel has the prerogative to do as it wishes over the lives of the poor Palestinians. As an occupying force, it has done so for some time.

Shame it dismantled a U.N. distribution procedure that worked extremely well and people are now dying/

I am sure Israel knows full well. Why not make it public?
I can guess it because no-one other than the US wants to be seen supporting the GHF.

I would imagine that the European donor countries don’t wish to be named due to the risk of public outrage from pro-Palestinians that they are funding the GHF, which is currently the only mechanism in place to get FREE aid to Palestinians.

That is in itself testament to the contradictory narrative on this conflict.

You really can’t think of a plausible reason for the diversion of most of the UN aid by armed groups, the delay in distributing it inside Gaza with tonnes left rotting waiting to be picked up with an apparent famine imminent, and the efforts to discredit the GHF for providing free aid, since the GHF started providing free aid that is not controlled by Hamas?

Hamas which is on its last legs and doesn’t have much left to use as a weapon?

It doesn’t take much much to work it out.

I have read your post a couple of times and I genuinely can't work it out. Could you elaborate more?

Hamas are inevitably looting some of the food but that doesn’t take away from the fact that 400 UN aid points were replaced with just 4 GHF points. Their average time they stay open is 11minutes. What chance do these poor people have of survival? Imagine getting to an aid point, joining a huge queue only to find out you have 11minutes to try and get to the front. It’s horrifying.

GHF needed to be experts to taken over from the U.N. but they are worse than amateurs.

Yup, Israel can choose which aid organisations go in so it chooses the ones that are willing to complete their registration process including giving data on their Palestinian staff. Simple as that.

I disagree with you that the UN distribution procedure worked extremely well because on the balance of probability I consider it highly likely that Hamas were stealing lots of aid under the old system.

However, I agree with you that it seemed to work better than the GHF system. I suspect that Hamas have done their best to sabotage this system which hasn't helped but it was also flawed in there only being 4 sites.

From this there’s distrust on both sides and Israel wants to be sure who is working as aid but the workers in return don’t trust Israel to hand over details?

Hamas is using food as a weapon?

Yes I think that's it in a nutshell.

Again, it's up to Israel and they are choosing not to.

I think the reason is probably as @CyberStranger says - the donors don't want to be identified as it was somehow seen as bad publicity to be identified with an organisation giving this form of aid to Gaza even before the first day of operating.

It’s really sad as it’s hard to resolve.

Oh right .
Seems to be a common theme from both sides.

And GFH should be kicked out of Gaza for totally failing to do the job it’s meant to do. Hamas is terrible and needs to go but shoddy ‘aid’ contractors shouldn’t be allowed to do this job if they are so incapable. 2m people cannot get aid in 11 minutes from 4 locations.

I don't think they should be kicked out at the moment as Gazans need as much aid as possible and the GHF is a source of aid alongside the NGOs that Israel are allowing to deliver aid, airdrops etc.

Definitely more aid distribution centres are needed and they need to stay open for longer, I agree with that.

The GHF was not intended to replace the UN
aid distribution. It was to work alongside it and then expand to prevent Hamas stealing the aid and selling it for revenue to prolong the war and control the population, but the UN has refused to cooperate and wanted it shut down before it even started operating, which some might say is surprising since the UN’s own figures shows clearly how much aid is ‘diverted’ and the Palestinians getting aid from the GHF have been saying that is the only way they can get aid!

The UN has up until recently refused offers of help from the GHF to get aid distributed, although they have recently held talks according to the GHF spokesman.

How on earth would they be able to meet the needs of 2 million people from a pilot scheme of 4 distribution sites immediately from the first day of inception, while under attack from a heavily infiltrated terrorist organisation who’s aim was create chaos/conflict and declare death threats to and murder Palestinians who used it.

Would any other aid organisation be able to do that?

Coincidentally the UN used various excuses as to why tonnes of aid in Gaza, checked and cleared, by the IDF, was not distributed when the GHF started increasing its capability of aid distribution, despite offers to help from the IDF and GHF.

The GHF is now delivering 1.5 million meals a day to Palestinians less than 3 months in while risking their lives to do so.

https://x.com/GHFUpdates/status/1956445971975373104

Worse than amateurs?

You can see from the comments the response they get from pro-Palestinians, You’d think they’d be a bit supportive that Palestinians were getting food.

The GHF was not intended to feed the whole of Gaza from 4 distribution sites from the get go!

It was intended to show free aid could be distributed to CIVILIANS, as it was intended to be, without Hamas stealing it and selling it, then to be expanded with UN and other NGO cooperation.

I have never understood why pro-Palestinians never questioned the FREE aid being sold for vastly inflated prices all through the war.

Palestinians have been saying it from the start but no one seemed to listen!

That is Hamas’s economy.

Yes they do risk their lives to do it and still they are seen as the bad guys for some reason.

Why did the UN refuse to co operate do you know?