Gazan GHF workers left to die at hospital where Doctors Without Borders is.

[CyberStranger]

As stated by GHF spokesman Chapin Fay in the below interview with Channel 4 new presenter Krishnan Guru Murthy.

At 7.30 minutes in the video, Mr Fay stated 9 local workers were murdered and the 20 injured were refused treatment at Nasser hospital, where Doctors Without Borders were, and left to die in the courtyard.

These were Palestinians!

Why was there no outcry about this? It seems that they were refused treatment because they were working for GHF. That is shocking.

It was interesting that Mr Fay said GHF is funded by the US as well as several donor countries from Europe who don’t wish to be named.

The whole interview was an absolute car crash and the presenter was totally unprofessional and disgustingly rude IMO, sitting in a comfy newsroom while firing allegations at an organisation who’s workers are at massive risk, getting death threats, and are actually being killed for trying to get free (as it should be) aid to Palestinians and from the response from a lot them at the sites, they are needed.

I think it’s pretty obvious why there has been conflict outside of the aid centres TBH.

I commend Mr Fay on his patience I have to say.

A disgusting smear attempt from Channel 4.

I wonder if Guru Murthy will take up the offer to go into Gaza himself.

www.channel4.com/news/ghf-challenged-on-funding-and-gaza-aid-site-killings

A brand new aid company with seemingly only military experience has zero place in Gaza - it is an incredibly complicated war zone because of how Hamas are fighting and shouldn’t be run by amateurs. If an agreement couldn’t be worked out re working alongside the UN, the U.N. should’ve stayed in place and not been replaced by GHF who couldn’t do the job. I won’t applaud them for taking three months to figure out how to do a job that was already being done albeit imperfectly.

They haven’t stopped Hamas from stealing aid. They haven’t provided adequate hubs for the number of people needing food. Ultimately,
some people are making a lot of money from private contracts - more disaster capitalism making rich people richer.

Plus, as much as I would love to believe that they are getting all those meals out to all those poor people, I’d like you to explain the maths. How many meals a minute do they need to deal out across 4 hubs in 11 minutes to get to 1.5m meals a day?

@Twiglets1 you're right - anyone providing aid at this point should be in there but it is frustrating that that is the ‘best’ we can offer all those poor people.

Hmm at the criticism of something which would be incredibly dangerous and difficult. I think it’s easy to post they are amateurs without the understanding of the reality for workers there.

And you’d need military experience to survive.

Has there been a comparable war to Gaza with the humanitarian aspect of a government hostile to its own civilians?

If you deny that go, you could look up the words of Hamas leaders, and the evidence of them starting a war with no protections in place for civilians, the use of human shields, and no surrender or even release of hostages despite their own heavy death count of civilians.

I don’t know how they are managing to deliver 1.5 million meals a day but I should imagine there evidence of that, when they are answerable to donor governments.

It is an amazing feat for amateurs in such a short amount of time despite constant terrorist threats including grenades being thrown at them, and brave Palestinian workers being murdered and attacked, then being refused medical treatment at their own hospitals!

Palestinians are continuing to work for the GHF but are having to be housed on site due to the risk to them from their own people.

The UN, with its decades of expertise and experience in war zones, hasn’t managed to get much FREE aid to civilians throughout this war, or stop the majority of it being diverted now has it?

It is the very fact that it is so dangerous and difficult that means it shouldn’t be taken on by a contractor with no experience. The U.N. had been doing an imperfect job but understood the challenge.it doesn’t take any expertise to know that zero experience orgs shouldn’t try things out in a war zone. Military expertise should be equal or second to providing aid properly. Otherwise, people end up dying from starvation and or mismanagement.

@CyberStranger No comparable war but plenty of people in desperate situations in need of aid.

I look forward to seeing evidence of the meals being distributed because the maths doesn’t seem to add up to me!

I don’t agree with any violence shown towards these workers but they are facing desperate people and giving hundreds of thousands of people 11minutes to try and get food whilst pointing guns at them. These are people watching their children slowly fading away or recovering from horrendous injuries. They have every right to be angry.

The important thing to me is that the people who need food are getting it and the way GHF has set itself cannot do that job. They never should’ve accepted if the U.N. weren’t there to help.

anyone turning up in extremis should have basic first aid as a minimum

But basic medical supplies like gauze and antiseptic are blocked by Israel under the arbitrary “dual use” rules
”Health care workers reported the following items as being restricted from entering Gaza: anesthesia, strong pain killers, sanitation materials, scalpels, scalpel handles, insulin, orthopedic tools (drills, screws, metal plates), suture materials, dressings and gauze, point of care testing, water purification materials, chest tubes, hormone medications for reproductive health, dialysis supplies, batteries, oxygen cylinders, airway and intubation supplies, tourniquets, clamps, skin staplers, and pulse oximeters.”
One medic even reported that soap was not allowed.
https://phr.org/our-work/resources/we-could-have-saved-so-many-more-anguish-and-death-caused-by-israels-restrictions-on-medical-supplies-in-gaza/

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0816/1528773-healthcare-gaza-protest/

They ARE actually doing that job though or surely they wouldn’t be feeding anyone.

If the important thing to you was that people who need food are getting it, why would you continue to discredit people who are risking their lives doing so?

Are you saying the GHF is publicly posting daily lies about how many meals they are delivering expecting not to get found out?

Has the UN said they are lying?

Surely they know who is getting food. That is their job after all.

The lack of evidence for Hamas systematically stealing significant amounts of aid prior blockade also comes from UD sources:

“An internal US government analysis found no evidence of systematic theft by the Palestinian militant group Hamas of US-funded humanitarian supplies, challenging the main rationale that Israel and the US give for backing a new armed private aid operation.
The analysis, which has not been previously reported, was conducted by a bureau within the US Agency for International Development and completed in late June. It examined 156 incidents of theft or loss of US-funded supplies reported by US aid partner organizations between October 2023 and this May.
It found “no reports alleging Hamas” benefited from US-funded supplies, according to a slide presentation of the findings.”

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250725-no-evidence-hamas-diverted-gaza-humanitarian-aid-usaid-report-shows

The context that this is happening politically in Israel is also important, when there are Knesset members determined to not allow aid in at all.

Ben Gvir proposing aid bring stopped and ethnic cleansing:

“The only way to win the war and return the hostages is to completely stop ‘humanitarian’ aid, occupy the entire Strip and encourage voluntary migration,” Ben Gvir says.

Well it seems that information was dependent on the UN and NGOs in Gaza reporting that Hamas stole aid and this article gives a different spin on it.

https://www.thefp.com/p/why-is-reuters-carrying-water-for-hamas?taid=689ba4515029200001b34e8d&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_source=twitter

Palestinians themselves say Hamas is stealing the aid. Look at the videos of armed men riding on top of the aid trucks.

Why is free aid being sold in markets?

The memo in this article does not mention any difficulties prior to Israel starting the blockade of essential goods to Gaza pre- October 2023. Do you remember that Israel also did this at the start of their bombardment of Gaza and not just earlier this year. I guess this is a consequence of weaponisation of essential aid.

There’s a difference between systemic or widespread stealing of aid by Hamas (which would then enable them to control food access for the majority of citizens) vs the inevitable fact that Hamas will be stealing some of the aid that enters Gaza.

If there are 4 hubs to go to for aid and they’re open for 11 minutes (the average in July), you’re saying that you’re happy to believe that 36,000 meals were handed out a minute across the sites. This obviously isn’t exact maths but do you see why I’m sceptical about their numbers?

And whilst Israel increases vetting beyond what aid agencies agree with- this is happening:

”According to the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (ICE) which measures food insecurity and famine, 81% of households in Gaza reported poor food consumption in July, up from 33% in April; 24% of households experienced very severe hunger in July, compared with 4% in April; and nearly nine out of 10 households resorted to "extremely severe coping mechanisms" to feed themselves.
That huge hike in food insecurity follows on directly from Israel's total blockade, which began on 2 March and ended on 19 May when Israel began a limited resumption of food supplies.”

https://news.sky.com/story/every-hospital-in-gaza-overwhelmed-with-malnutrition-cases-13412697

Maryam obviously has an underlying medical condition. I wonder why yet again, this was not included in the Sky report?

In this video from a Turkish new agency giving attention to her plight, you can clearly several other younger children in the family who do not look undernourished.

Absolutely I agree that she should be evacuated for relief from her condition, but at lease be honest if you’re going to use children for exploitation purposes.

Do you think the food insecurity situation might be exacerbated by 93% of UN aid trucks being commandeered before the aid gets to the people who need it?

https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1952052324697776638

Poor child. She has lost a tremendous amount of weight. Maybe her medical condition means that she needs a particular type of food that the blockade of aid means she can’t get.

The article I posted also gives stats that 81% of households can’t get sufficient foods. This is affecting most households now and people clearly know GHF supply is not enough, so no surprise.

In the video you posted earlier, the MSF lady spoke of impact of malnutrition on difficulties with healing (as well lack of pain relief for children). I’ve read doctors speak of this too.

Italian doctors say that a poor 20 year old Gazan lady flown to Italy died of malnutrition.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce87n455dvxo.amp

The U.N. need to be able to work as they see fit to distribute aid the world will willingly give to Palestinians in Gaza.

The GHF made it clear from the beginning that it could not supply the whole population of Gaza without UN cooperation so it certainly is no surprise.

It has consistently been asking for UN collaboration before it even started operations.

I see other NGOs have now called for the UN to shift its policy from refusing to cooperate with the GHF.

You didn’t answer my previous question as to whether you think the stealing of 93% of aid might be contributing to food insecurity.

https://x.com/GHFUpdates/status/1956765649373384971

@CyberStranger I’m qualified in child health with 30 years of experience and it’s clear that her immediate problem is malnutrition. Food is medicine. Have you seen a child with cystic fibrosis or cerebral palsy or any other chronic condition in England look like that? But we are seeing image after image of Palestinians kids - cystic fibrosis, cerebral palsy, genetic conditions intellectual disability . Associated press journalists investigated 13 cases and 5 had no relevant background history.
Is it just that you start to excuse war crimes by past, it seems ok to let the old and the weak sick die this way?
Is the life a sick or disabled person less valuable than a healthy person. Is the life of a person from one tradition more valuable than someone from another tradition?

Where did you get that idea from?

How disgusting to infer that because I pointed out quite obvious facts omitted from @Stripes56 posts?

I quite clearly said Maryam needs to be evacuated to receive proper medical care.

In fact I firmly believe all civilians should have had the opportunity to be evacuated from the beginning of the war.

As is obvious from the video link I posted filmed to bring attention to her plight, the other children in the family are obviously not suffering as Maryam is.

Here it is again in case you missed it.

x.com/anadoluagency/status/1952052324697776638

Of course stealing aid is contributing to the problem- but you seem to have missed the point that this was not a significant issue prior to Israel blocking aid! It’s not worth stealing if it isn’t in short supply!

I’ve answered this already - all this is post Israel’s initial blockade of aid in 2023. The article has a link the government memo- check the dates on it.

It’s not the first time people defending Israel’s blockade by saying the child has a genetic condition. Whilst the latter may be true- the aid that they need is clearly not getting through, making them the most vulnerable. Like a canary in a mine.

@CyberStranger has already pointed that the current situation is leading to most aid being stolen. We already know GHF can’t provide enough aid. The maths isn’t complicated- it clearly shows that the weaponisation of aid is going to lead to significant malnutrition.

Another person who seems to be advocating for ethnic cleansing.

Maybe people suggesting this, including Ben Gvir, and calling for Palestinians to leave and calling it “voluntary” or an “an opportunity” - don’t seem to realise that maybe Palestinians are scared they will never be allowed back into Gaza given history of the region. Also, starving people to leave does not really make it voluntary.

If people point out that children being used to show malnutrition have genetic conditions, it is not to defend Israel's blockade.

It is just to point out how we are being emotionally manipulated if we think that particular child is starving only because of a lack of food - a story which helps Hamas propaganda.

Facts matter. As was pointed out above by @CyberStranger the other children in Maryam's family are not in the poor condition she is in. It is disingenuous to show her image as if she is a typical child in Gaza - she is not even a typical child within her own family.

Gazans need access to more aid, yes - children in particular. Israel should never have blockaded aid in the first place, in my opinion. But don't use images of children with significant medical issues for propaganda purposes. That is exploitative towards the child and attempts to mislead people unless the child's medical issues are explained alongside the fact they are malnourished. It is terrible when children like Maryam are unable to get the medical help or special food they need to keep healthy.

“If people point out that children being used to show malnutrition have genetic conditions, it is not to defend Israel's blockade.
It is just to point out how we are being emotionally manipulated if we think that particular child is starving only because of a lack of food - a story which helps Hamas propaganda.”

If it’s not lack of food - then why is she starving?

My daughter has a genetic condition- coeliacs- she can’t eat wheat. It’s not an uncommon condition but easily managed with non wheat containing meals. She would be very ill without this- a shortage of food. Flour appears to be mainstay of food in Gaza.

“One of the most affected groups are those with gluten intolerance, who are unable to consume wheat-based products like bread, which now make up the bulk of available food.
"My wife and one of my five children have celiac disease," said Rami Taha who lives in central Gaza.
"Before the war, I used to buy them gluten-free products. Now, there is nothing. I have to take them to the hospital every few days just to get IV fluids."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlzr7ey8rpo.amp

Put it another way - if the only problem was just lack of food, wouldn't her siblings be as malnourished as her?

You mention yourself some children are gluten intolerant and that is going to be a problem in Gaza at the moment.

Why the insistence on showing photos of children with health conditions without mentioning the health conditions in the text (in most cases)? Just be honest!

There are malnourished children in Gaza at the moment and the scarcity of resources is particularly affecting those with underlying health issues or food intolerances.

You’re already minimising the concerns. Lack of gluten free food is not simply a “problem” - it means that there are minimal fresh fruit and vegetables available. Perhaps you would think it merely a problem for your family to only mainly eat bread

The aid agencies have been expressing mounting concerns about malnutrition even prior to Israel’s complete blockade in March.

It was pictures of starving kids that made Trump put pressure on Israel to allow in aid- so frankly - unfortunately- it has served a purpose.

Why bring my family into it? Please don’t.

It wasn’t photos of individual sick & starving children being used for propaganda purposes that made Trump say what he did. It was the general picture that he could see with his own eyes of malnourished & starving babies & children in Gaza.