Gazan GHF workers left to die at hospital where Doctors Without Borders is.

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As stated by GHF spokesman Chapin Fay in the below interview with Channel 4 new presenter Krishnan Guru Murthy.

At 7.30 minutes in the video, Mr Fay stated 9 local workers were murdered and the 20 injured were refused treatment at Nasser hospital, where Doctors Without Borders were, and left to die in the courtyard.

These were Palestinians!

Why was there no outcry about this? It seems that they were refused treatment because they were working for GHF. That is shocking.

It was interesting that Mr Fay said GHF is funded by the US as well as several donor countries from Europe who don’t wish to be named.

The whole interview was an absolute car crash and the presenter was totally unprofessional and disgustingly rude IMO, sitting in a comfy newsroom while firing allegations at an organisation who’s workers are at massive risk, getting death threats, and are actually being killed for trying to get free (as it should be) aid to Palestinians and from the response from a lot them at the sites, they are needed.

I think it’s pretty obvious why there has been conflict outside of the aid centres TBH.

I commend Mr Fay on his patience I have to say.

A disgusting smear attempt from Channel 4.

I wonder if Guru Murthy will take up the offer to go into Gaza himself.

www.channel4.com/news/ghf-challenged-on-funding-and-gaza-aid-site-killings

It’s been explained multiple times we don’t like being lied to and manipulated by these images purporting to be something they’re not - images of typical Gazan children.

I don’t know if some people lack the ability to understand the nuance or are just pretending not to understand. Probably the latter because it’s not that hard to understand.

@PinkBobby the way you talk it’s like you don’t see a future for Gazans whether Hamas stay or go. Maybe you would prefer to see the war continue indefinitely? Because you’re all negativity so it’s hard to guess what you would consider a step in the right direction?

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So the situation being as it is in Gaza at the moment, is it better overall to have airdrops of aid or not? Maybe you should tell all the countries providing the aid not to bother due to health & safety concerns. Write to Egypt, Qatar, US, Germany, France etc & tell them they’re doing more harm than good.

We get it - you are still upset that Israel stopped the old system. But the constant negativity is exhausting.

Anyho back on the topic of the thread, it seems there were a few medical NGOs at Nasser Hospital when the incident in my OP took place including the British Medical Association.

The original Facebook post from 11th June is in the archive link on the post.

Didn’t think it could get any worse.

https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1956806994171494684

What a world we live in when people jump on posts obviously having not read or understood them!

Where has anyone on this thread weighed up whether children in a war should be helped?

Do you not think facts matter either or do they only not matter when Israel is involved?

Some people feel they have been lied to and manipulated by these images.

Not all of us feel the same. I can’t feel manipulated by an image of a child loosing weight in a scenario where most people can agree rationally not enough food is getting through. Were aid agencies and medical staff are talking about malnutrition. I only feel sorrow that this is happening and I was completely avoidable.

I guess people see images and look for confirmation for their underlying beliefs. Maybe despite the evidence people don’t want to believe in food shortages having a significant impact.

Food can be medicine. It wasn’t that long ago that people with Coeliacs got prescriptions for wheat free food in the UK.

So David Collier, “award winning journalist” and professional propagandist has diagnosed malabsorption. Failed journalist becomes overnight medic I guess . So if she has malabsorption , it’s still not normal for a child with malabsorption to look like that- malabsorption is treatable. With proper medical care the child should not look like that. I bet there isn’t a single child with malabsorption that looks like that in Israel.

On a population level it isn’t going to make a difference to malnutrition levels, it won’t avert this impending disaster. It’s not enough and it’s not targeted. Israel let allies drop aid to placate them. Allies drop the aid to placate their own populations who are largely horrified by the images coming from Gaza. It is very expensive theatre.

If Israel were very concerned about aid being looted they would not allow completely untargeted aid drops that end up in the hands of the fittest or even those who are armed.

Apparently the air drops provide minuscule amounts of aid.

“The really big issue is aircraft can only deliver one truckload of aid. Gaza needs 500 truckloads a day, so it's 0.2% of the daily need,"

https://news.sky.com/story/why-are-airdrops-on-gaza-so-dangerous-13402889

This link shows that even Israel’s own data shows only 14% of aid needed has entered Gaza since May.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-only-14-per-cent-of-aid-needed-has-entered-gaza-since-may-israeli-data-shows

Nice try. I'm not anti-semitic 😉

The US have killed 6 million Muslims since 2003. For nothing. Bush is a war criminal.

So don't come putting words in my mouth.

There is plenty of official data and reliable news/ sources to prove there is a famine and this is a genocide.

Shalom. Salaam.

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Act quickly to avert it.

@Twiglets1 that's a bit of an overreaction to a factual post. I didnt blame anyone , I was just commenting on another poster talking about the risks of this method of aid distribution as I had read about it the other day.
It was a very sad case of a child who was killed by a pallet falling on their head while trying to look for food something we can't imagine.

I’m not Jewish or Israeli.

Is there a reason you think I am from your greeting?

What has Bush got to do with this?

The aid is on large pallets and the parachute carrying it is very visible in the air. Airdrops have been used for humanitarian aid since WW2 including by the UN.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airdrop

It is tragic a young boy was killed but I find it extremely strange no one saw the pallet and parachute coming.

I agree that it was a terrible thing that Hamas destroyed what looked to be a beautiful Gaza, by building all those tunnels underneath every part of it and booby trapping all those buildings, that the IDF then had to dismantle.

Such a waste.

Obviously it is visible but if your family hasn't eaten for days you will do things that don't make sense like run at a falling pallet or jump on a tank or dodging bullets to get flour .
https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2025/8/10/palestinian-boy-crushed-to-death-by-falling-aid-pallet-in-gaza#flips-6376760539112:0

This is the video it shows the chaos and confusion of when it happened. I know it's Al Jazeera but it's the easiest to copy in.

@PaxAeterna What about on an individual level? It makes a difference to the individuals receiving the aid. Aid drops are used in humanitarian crises not to solve malnutrition on a population level but to supplement other methods of aid distribution. Much more aid is getting into Gaza now by various means. There are NGOs distributing aid as well as the GHF - even the UN are distributing some.

161 packages containing food were airdropped on Sunday carried out by nine countries, according to the IDF.

The Jordanian Armed Forces said in a statement that about 106 tonnes of food and relief supplies were dropped during the operation.

On their own they are inadequate to solve the food shortages I agree, and also they can be dangerous. But the way some people talk, it would be better not to bother with them at all.

Prices plummet in Gaza as aid influx transforms markets

New internal data from the Israeli security establishment shows a sharp decline in the prices of basic goods in Gaza following the massive influx of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip in recent weeks.

According to the data, which was presented to decision-makers, prices of essential products in Gaza’s markets have dropped by dozens of percentage points.

Officials say the price cuts reflect the impact of continuous aid convoys, which have flooded the Strip with flour, rice, sugar, and other staples.

Here are some examples: A kilogram of flour, which cost between NIS 80-100 about three weeks ago, is now priced at NIS 18. A kilogram of sugar, which costs NIS 300, now costs NIS 50. A kilogram of pasta dropped from NIS 100 to NIS 10. A kilogram of rice, which was NIS 120 three weeks ago, now sells for NIS 30. Oil, lentils, and hummus, which previously went for NIS 90 per kilogram/liter, have now dropped to NIS 30, NIS 20, and NIS 10, respectively.

Although the data originates from the security establishment, it is also corroborated by international organizations and aid groups operating in the area.

Israeli officials say the influx of humanitarian aid will continue, and is expected to grow, in the coming weeks.

Despite the improvement, humanitarian organizations stress that Gaza’s overall humanitarian crisis remains severe. While food is becoming more accessible, challenges persist in areas such as medical supplies, clean water, fuel, and adequate shelter.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-864495

There is nothing we can do to "act quickly to avert it". That's a meaningless soundbite.

Most of Gaza has already been destroyed so that can't be averted.

The parts that haven't will equally be destroyed if Hamas & Netanyahu can't agree a ceasefire deal soon.

It's not what I want but it is what will happen if we don't have a ceasefire before 7/10/25. Palestinians only have until that date to evacuate Gaza City, unless Netanyahu and Hamas can agree terms before then.

I’m sorry for my negativity but when a place has been flattened like Gaza has, millions of people have been displaced, malnutrition is setting in that could cause lifelong effects and members of the government who played a role in all this have made it clear that they don’t want Palestinians in that land, it is really quite hard to be positive about the future.

My comments were in response to the usual “if Hamas surrendered tomorrow, this would all be over”. I think that comment totally misses the fact that Palestinians will be suffering for a long time even once Hamas are gone and the worse it gets during the conflict (in terms of homes lost, key infrastructure lost, the number of injured or malnourished people etc.), the longer this all lasts for them.

So again, apologies for being a downer when it comes to the plight of the Palestinian. It is the opposite of what a hope will happen but I think we all have to be ready for more horrors to come.

Seriously though, what would you consider a step in the right direction? You surely can't think there is no hope for Gazans whether Hamas stay or go.

I think the best chance the Palestinians have is if the Israelis vote for chance in the 2026 elections and take the power away from the right wing elements of govt. They have a disproportionate amount of power at the moment and are the ones pushing hatred - the things they have said about Gaza and Palestine have been shared enough to make it clear that they see no future for Palestinians in Gaza. But an election could go either way - I know the protests are getting bigger but I don’t know if enough Israeli people are interested in moderate views at this time. This ain’t me saying all Israelis are extremists. I just don’t know enough about their views at the moment as there’s a lot of contradictory info. But ultimately, I think the make-up of the Israeli government will be instrumental in determining who Palestine is rebuilt for - refugees or settlers.

Another huge element will be who helps the Palestinians set up a new government. Recent history suggests plonking someone in charge that the Americans want (and ignoring what the people want) isn’t a recipe for success. Someone (poss on this thread) said Saudi or Qatar could be key.

I agree with you about the Israel elections but they won’t happen until October 2026 at the earliest. And very likely wouldn’t happen even then unless the war is over by then.

What would you see as a positive first step over the next few months?

I’m struggling to think of realistic positive steps in the coming months as there is going to be another escalation in violence as Gaza City is taken.