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Conflict in the Middle East

50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

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Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:38

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

50 French Jewish kids aged 10-15 apparently attended a summer camp in Spain.

On the flight back to France, before takeoff while plane still on tarmac, they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that). Police were called, they were told to get off and their 21 year old female supervisor ended up being beaten to the ground and forcibly handcuffed.

According to witnesses on the plane, the children stopped singing when asked and were well behaved, and nothing was amiss. The crew made a tannoy announcement that there were security concerns and police entered the plane and told the kids to get off. The female supervisor was ordered to make the kids hand over their phones so footage of them being removed from the plane could be deleted and she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed when she refused. The Captain allegedly said Israel was a terrorist state.

She later had to sign an NDA to be released.

The Captain has been identified as being a flying instructor for two of the 9/11 plane hijackers.

WTAF!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/jewish-schoolchildren-kicked-off-plane-singing-hebrew-songs/?s=09

https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/1948787040088457336

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

https://x.com/igaln/status/1948794852285517877

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

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Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 10:07

Hodgemollar · 27/07/2025 10:05

I’ve never seen an actual official account of a fully named passenger. Only articles referencing Instagram comments.

Why should the parents be believed when they weren’t there?

Its incredibly unlikely a group of 50 passengers were ejected from a flight by both the airline staff and the civil guard staff for absolutely nothing other than being Jewish.

So when your children tell you something happened, that was very serious, you say, sorry don't believe you. This stretching is testing that well used elastic band - again.

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 10:11

Hodgemollar · 27/07/2025 10:05

I’ve never seen an actual official account of a fully named passenger. Only articles referencing Instagram comments.

Why should the parents be believed when they weren’t there?

Its incredibly unlikely a group of 50 passengers were ejected from a flight by both the airline staff and the civil guard staff for absolutely nothing other than being Jewish.

The events are still being investigated. I’m not as convinced as you that a commercial airline always behaves properly and with moral integrity.
I agree teenagers can be rowdy and difficult but there were plenty of adults supervising.
Im keeping an open mind.

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 10:19

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 10:05

The Mossad agent theory is the one that makes me laugh. It's so much easier to believe he risked his life to do a James Bond, than to help take down a brutal terrorist regime.

Edited

I think that illustrates the disconnect of what people think of both sides. Palestine = good, Israel = bad. Why would anyone willingly go over to the baddies side??

The knots people tie themselves in trying to avoid the obvious is eye opening.

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 10:22

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 10:03

I particularly think his description of Iran not caring what happens in this life, but the after life, explains a lot. Closed minds are only open, when it comes to displaying their moral superiority. The problem is with signalling one's virtue, one eventually runs out of steam.

Sshhhh…you’re not meant to mention the fact that there’s a lot of people in the ME who see this life as transitory and inconsequential or that they can be a bit brutal and murderous. It doesn’t match the optics.

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 10:28

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 10:22

Sshhhh…you’re not meant to mention the fact that there’s a lot of people in the ME who see this life as transitory and inconsequential or that they can be a bit brutal and murderous. It doesn’t match the optics.

🏆 🏆 🏆 post of the thread x

RosaStar · 27/07/2025 10:32

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notimagain · 27/07/2025 10:33

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 10:11

The events are still being investigated. I’m not as convinced as you that a commercial airline always behaves properly and with moral integrity.
I agree teenagers can be rowdy and difficult but there were plenty of adults supervising.
Im keeping an open mind.

Likewise.

It's fair enough and reasonable to offload non-compliant individuals, the crew would be on pretty solid ground legally doing that.

I'm not so sure about denying travel to the entire party, so it is going to be interesting to hear the justification used by Vueling if their staff did indeed force off load the entire group.

Jujujudo · 27/07/2025 11:48

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 09:40

Every single time there has been a thread attempting to discuss an incident of real or alleged antisemitism in Europe there have been posters who immediately appeared to suggest whatever happened is either
a) deserved (because of Gaza)
or
b) irrelevant- because we should all be talking about Gaza all the time

Thus proving that antisemitism has become the norm and Jews are gaslit into questioning their own experience of it. Horrific, unacceptable and upsetting. Jews, it seems, don’t count when it comes to being woke, humanitarian and sympathetic. All 14m of them live with constant PTSD and trauma and that is being rewritten today. The truth will come out. It always does. One thing is for sure, there is NO justification for any kind of racism. Ever. Even when it’s the Jews.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:12

EllytheNelephant · 27/07/2025 00:24

The pilot is Spanish, and he did train the Sept 11 terrorists (obviously there is zero suggestion that he knew their intent).

I agree that it does not appear to have any relevance to the recent incident, and I think the motivations of those news sources reporting it are highly suspect, but your above post is factually inaccurate throughout - not having a go, I just think the correction is worthwhile.

Happy to stand corrected.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:14

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 10:22

Sshhhh…you’re not meant to mention the fact that there’s a lot of people in the ME who see this life as transitory and inconsequential or that they can be a bit brutal and murderous. It doesn’t match the optics.

I’m assuming you’re including Netanyahu and his cabinet amongst the brutal and murderous contingent?

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:18

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 10:28

🏆 🏆 🏆 post of the thread x

Presumably you’re referring to followers of Islam?

If someone were negatively categorising all Jewish citizens together in this way, someone would immediately claim anti-Semitism.

How is your comment not Islamaphobic?

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 12:20

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Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 12:20

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:18

Presumably you’re referring to followers of Islam?

If someone were negatively categorising all Jewish citizens together in this way, someone would immediately claim anti-Semitism.

How is your comment not Islamaphobic?

No, just Islamic fundamentalists, who I think we can all agree, are dangerous.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:26

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 12:20

No, just Islamic fundamentalists, who I think we can all agree, are dangerous.

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All fundamentalists are dangerous.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:27

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How is Netanyahu European? Sorry, I’m genuinely missing your point?

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 12:35

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:18

Presumably you’re referring to followers of Islam?

If someone were negatively categorising all Jewish citizens together in this way, someone would immediately claim anti-Semitism.

How is your comment not Islamaphobic?

Because I didn’t mention Islam.

I don’t have a problem with any followers of Islam unless they are Islamic fundamentalists. I don’t conflate ordinary Muslims with Islamic fundamentalists and know that they are separate groups.

I have an issue with countries with leaderships who impose Islamic fundamentalism on their own and other people and use it as an excuse to brutalise, control murder people they deem to be lesser. Those people are barbaric and, as far as I’m concerned, have absolutely no right to call themselves holy. I refuse to believe that any God would want their followers to murder, rape or torture in their name.

If you assumed I meant Muslims from my post then that is your interpretation of what I wrote. That’s on you, but you don’t then get to (almost) accuse me of being Islamophobia for something I didn’t write. I have no problem with saying that some people in the ME have used Islam as a way to further their own ends and to control their own people and wage wars on other groups or countries. Those are the people who will happily martyr themselves for their version of Islam and will take anyone they chose with them. I have no respect or care for men who ‘marry’ 9 year old girls or throw old women into pits before burying them alive as they serve no purpose as sex slaves. They are not holy men. They are not good men. They are vile, despicable examples of humanity who deserve nothing but contempt and condemnation.

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia you are doing a disservice to the millions of people who have suffered at the hands of Isis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Houthis, IRGC, Hamas etc, etc, etc. Taking your comments to its logical conclusion we can’t call out the abhorrent suppression of Afghani women because it’s Islamophobic. That is the logical conclusion when you opt for a binary view of the ME.

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 12:46

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2025 12:26

All fundamentalists are dangerous.

We are talking about Islam. It is not islamophobic to denigrate Islamic extremists such as Hamas and Ayatollahs, who sanction stoning women to death. I won't mention the heinous acts that Hamas carried out, because they are frankly despicable and we are already aware. Any religion, which advocates suicide, in the name of that religion, are fanatics. That's why I referred to the
the prominence of the after life. My comment was NOT directed as Islam per se.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/07/2025 12:51

Lolapusht · 27/07/2025 12:35

Because I didn’t mention Islam.

I don’t have a problem with any followers of Islam unless they are Islamic fundamentalists. I don’t conflate ordinary Muslims with Islamic fundamentalists and know that they are separate groups.

I have an issue with countries with leaderships who impose Islamic fundamentalism on their own and other people and use it as an excuse to brutalise, control murder people they deem to be lesser. Those people are barbaric and, as far as I’m concerned, have absolutely no right to call themselves holy. I refuse to believe that any God would want their followers to murder, rape or torture in their name.

If you assumed I meant Muslims from my post then that is your interpretation of what I wrote. That’s on you, but you don’t then get to (almost) accuse me of being Islamophobia for something I didn’t write. I have no problem with saying that some people in the ME have used Islam as a way to further their own ends and to control their own people and wage wars on other groups or countries. Those are the people who will happily martyr themselves for their version of Islam and will take anyone they chose with them. I have no respect or care for men who ‘marry’ 9 year old girls or throw old women into pits before burying them alive as they serve no purpose as sex slaves. They are not holy men. They are not good men. They are vile, despicable examples of humanity who deserve nothing but contempt and condemnation.

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia you are doing a disservice to the millions of people who have suffered at the hands of Isis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Houthis, IRGC, Hamas etc, etc, etc. Taking your comments to its logical conclusion we can’t call out the abhorrent suppression of Afghani women because it’s Islamophobic. That is the logical conclusion when you opt for a binary view of the ME.

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia

You are being disingenuous your initial vagueness was intentional. You said

and societies who actively encourage their children to be martyrs, have honour killings, through people off buildings or still crucify people.

You did not clarify islamist fundamentalists but suggested it was a society of people.

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 13:02

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/07/2025 12:51

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia

You are being disingenuous your initial vagueness was intentional. You said

and societies who actively encourage their children to be martyrs, have honour killings, through people off buildings or still crucify people.

You did not clarify islamist fundamentalists but suggested it was a society of people.

It goes without saying we are referencing fundamentalists. Are you saying every day Islamists carry out those acts? Quit the faux naivety. If only liberals were this vehement in defending antisemitism.

ETA defending against antisemitism although my unedited post often feels nearer the mark.

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 13:03

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/07/2025 12:51

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia

You are being disingenuous your initial vagueness was intentional. You said

and societies who actively encourage their children to be martyrs, have honour killings, through people off buildings or still crucify people.

You did not clarify islamist fundamentalists but suggested it was a society of people.

Societies run by Islamic fundamentalists.

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 13:07

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/07/2025 12:51

By conflating criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with Islamophobia

You are being disingenuous your initial vagueness was intentional. You said

and societies who actively encourage their children to be martyrs, have honour killings, through people off buildings or still crucify people.

You did not clarify islamist fundamentalists but suggested it was a society of people.

You are twisting the meaning.
Liberal Iranians know that their society has been destroyed by Islamic fundamentalism .

notimagain · 27/07/2025 13:20

Meanwhile back on thread, no doubt briefly

The Avocat (lawyer) for the group has been doing the rounds of French media, including an appearance on one of the major rolling news channels (BFMTV).

She's claiming all the witness reports from passengers she has read/heard (and that includes accounts from those both inside and outside the group) are consistent and don't describe behaviour that would justify an offload.

There's obviously going to be an element of "she would say that" but this story is going to run..

And now no doubt back to the tangential arguments (would "get a room" be appropriate,.or would that be rude?)

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 13:27

OpheliaWasntMad · 27/07/2025 13:07

You are twisting the meaning.
Liberal Iranians know that their society has been destroyed by Islamic fundamentalism .

What's that, that's always being said about using antisemitism, to shut down conversation? Those double standards, yet again.

Dangermoo · 27/07/2025 13:33

notimagain · 27/07/2025 13:20

Meanwhile back on thread, no doubt briefly

The Avocat (lawyer) for the group has been doing the rounds of French media, including an appearance on one of the major rolling news channels (BFMTV).

She's claiming all the witness reports from passengers she has read/heard (and that includes accounts from those both inside and outside the group) are consistent and don't describe behaviour that would justify an offload.

There's obviously going to be an element of "she would say that" but this story is going to run..

And now no doubt back to the tangential arguments (would "get a room" be appropriate,.or would that be rude?)

If it turns out the kids were being disorderly, good for the airline. If it turns out the airline crew were being discriminatory, I hope they've got deep pockets.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/07/2025 13:41

Jujujudo · 27/07/2025 07:01

Again.. that is not what I said. It was stated that obviously people other than Muslims lived in Gaza. I said that it was Judenfrei, and less Christians lived there than in tel Aviv.,

No you didnt. This is the first time you've mentioned Judenfrie or any comparison of numbers of Christians in Tel Aviv and Gaza as far as I can see. Your response to evidence wrt Gazan Christians was to dismiss it as BBC shite.

I suggest you go back and reread your posts on this thread because you seem confused.