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Conflict in the Middle East

50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

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Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:38

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

50 French Jewish kids aged 10-15 apparently attended a summer camp in Spain.

On the flight back to France, before takeoff while plane still on tarmac, they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that). Police were called, they were told to get off and their 21 year old female supervisor ended up being beaten to the ground and forcibly handcuffed.

According to witnesses on the plane, the children stopped singing when asked and were well behaved, and nothing was amiss. The crew made a tannoy announcement that there were security concerns and police entered the plane and told the kids to get off. The female supervisor was ordered to make the kids hand over their phones so footage of them being removed from the plane could be deleted and she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed when she refused. The Captain allegedly said Israel was a terrorist state.

She later had to sign an NDA to be released.

The Captain has been identified as being a flying instructor for two of the 9/11 plane hijackers.

WTAF!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/jewish-schoolchildren-kicked-off-plane-singing-hebrew-songs/?s=09

https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/1948787040088457336

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

https://x.com/igaln/status/1948794852285517877

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MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:45

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/07/2025 18:36

It is definitely not true that any criticism of Israel is antisemitic. Obviously there are those who would like to say it is. Nobody is above criticism.

A very fair statement.

Nobody should be above criticism.

notimagain · 26/07/2025 18:47

@mugglewump

. If it is true that there was only one inexperienced staff member on board to accompany 50 children, that is not acceptable in itself.

If you spend a bit more time and look elsewhere in the French press you'll see adult supervisor number given as 7 or 8, and in addition to the info you've quoted you'll see the holiday company/group tell their side of the story, and it's quite different to what Vueling are saying.

Hence this has all gone up to ministerial level in an attempt to get clarification.

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 18:49

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/07/2025 18:36

It is definitely not true that any criticism of Israel is antisemitic. Obviously there are those who would like to say it is. Nobody is above criticism.

Saying that Israel is to blame, for making Jews unsafe, amounts to what. If not antisemitic, it's victim blaming. It is most certainly an irresponsible thing to suggest, when jewish people aren't being targetted by other Jews and/or Israelis. It is certainly minimising antisemitism, which is the only thing making Jews feel unsafe. It's interesting that liberals are always quick to call racism, except when it comes to the Jewish community.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:51

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 17:55

Well there it is, very clear, anyone can abuse, attack, and discriminate, even murder (that’s what’s happened) Jewish people all over the world because Israel are carrying out a war against a barbaric Islamist fundamentalist terrorist government which they didn’t even start!

I wonder if the same would have been used as a disgusting justification for attacks/discrimination on Muslims all around the world after Oct 7th, because surely that would have been unsurprising and solely Hamas’s fault.

What a sick post.

It happened and it is newsworthy so why do you think it’s being used to distract from ‘news’ we’ve heard every few months for almost two years?

Your comments on starving babies and their “fat” mothers are sick.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:52

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 17:21

Did you even bother to listen to that video btw? At the 40 second mark?

Thats from 2014 btw.

Is a video that is 11 years old relevant to the current situation?

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 18:55

If I was being cynical, I would say this is yet another thread to distract away from the real news — the images of starving babies being deliberately murdered which are (rightly and finally) in the news this week.

Considering the OP is trying to convince and failing spectacularly in doing so that Palestinians are not starving - i have to agree.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:56

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 18:49

Saying that Israel is to blame, for making Jews unsafe, amounts to what. If not antisemitic, it's victim blaming. It is most certainly an irresponsible thing to suggest, when jewish people aren't being targetted by other Jews and/or Israelis. It is certainly minimising antisemitism, which is the only thing making Jews feel unsafe. It's interesting that liberals are always quick to call racism, except when it comes to the Jewish community.

Israel or the current Government of Israel?
Surely there’s a distinction? To blame the civilian population of Israel for the egregious actions of its corrupt Government is just as wrong as blaming the civilian population of Gaza for the egregious actions of its terrorists leaders, obviously.

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 18:57

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:56

Israel or the current Government of Israel?
Surely there’s a distinction? To blame the civilian population of Israel for the egregious actions of its corrupt Government is just as wrong as blaming the civilian population of Gaza for the egregious actions of its terrorists leaders, obviously.

This.

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 19:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:56

Israel or the current Government of Israel?
Surely there’s a distinction? To blame the civilian population of Israel for the egregious actions of its corrupt Government is just as wrong as blaming the civilian population of Gaza for the egregious actions of its terrorists leaders, obviously.

If the pp was referring to jews being unsafe because of antisemitism, then the fault doesn't lie squarely with Israel, full stop.

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 19:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 18:56

Israel or the current Government of Israel?
Surely there’s a distinction? To blame the civilian population of Israel for the egregious actions of its corrupt Government is just as wrong as blaming the civilian population of Gaza for the egregious actions of its terrorists leaders, obviously.

It’s also wrong to say “the government of Israel are making Jews unsafe” as if that’s understandable and ok …
A lot of people seem to think it’s ok to start talking about Gaza the minute a Jewish person is mentioned. It is anti semitic

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 19:01

Both fair replies.

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 19:02

I would also say the same about Muslims feeling unsafe for being blamed for 9/11. When that feeling of not being safe, actually stemmed from Islamophobia.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 19:06

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 19:02

I would also say the same about Muslims feeling unsafe for being blamed for 9/11. When that feeling of not being safe, actually stemmed from Islamophobia.

Completely agree.

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 19:06

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 19:02

I would also say the same about Muslims feeling unsafe for being blamed for 9/11. When that feeling of not being safe, actually stemmed from Islamophobia.

Good point.
I’ve often thought this .

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:06

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

Jujujudo · 26/07/2025 19:06

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 18:39

Well, sorry to tell you this, it’s actual fact that in the past they....
So you are suggesting this is something all Palestinians do or is it extremists? Because your post suggests it is a common trait of Palestinians to send their kids into Israel strapped with suicide bombs. You are conflating all Palestinians with extremist behaviour

In your own words
Jews. Israelis. Hindus. Christians. Grouping an entire people together negatively is called racism
I'm actually flabbergasted you can't see the hypocrisy

You had to do some serious mental gymnastics there to gaslight me into thinking you had a point.

Jujujudo · 26/07/2025 19:07

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:06

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

I agree.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 19:07

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:06

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

So sorry. We’re all human beings. We all came from the same place.

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:07

Is it unfair? Yes, it is. Does that mean it doesn't happen? Sadly, it still does.

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 19:10

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:06

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

I understand what you mean and you have a point. Irish people suffered during the IRA bombing campaign and a similar thing could be said.
But ultimately it is obviously wrong to blame everyone from a religion/race/nationality for the actions of their most extreme members

Weepixie · 26/07/2025 19:11

What does being a flying instructor to two of the 9/11 pilots have anything to do with it?

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 19:11

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 19:10

I understand what you mean and you have a point. Irish people suffered during the IRA bombing campaign and a similar thing could be said.
But ultimately it is obviously wrong to blame everyone from a religion/race/nationality for the actions of their most extreme members

Hopefully everyone on this thread can at least agree on that.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 19:12

Weepixie · 26/07/2025 19:11

What does being a flying instructor to two of the 9/11 pilots have anything to do with it?

It doesn’t. Shit stirring.

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:12

OpheliaWasntMad · 26/07/2025 19:10

I understand what you mean and you have a point. Irish people suffered during the IRA bombing campaign and a similar thing could be said.
But ultimately it is obviously wrong to blame everyone from a religion/race/nationality for the actions of their most extreme members

Yes, I 100% agree it's wrong.

This isn't the thread for it so I won't go on but you get my point.

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 19:13

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 19:06

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

I respect your opinion, as a Muslim and I wouldn't be so rude to question you on that feeling. So you would blame terrorists, as much as you would Islamaphobes? That wasn't what the pp said. She said Israel is squarely to blame for Jews feeling unsafe. Both in your case and the case of antisemitism, the blame should wholly lie with the bigots - those are the people the courts would be interested in. It is antisemites, who are making Jews feel unsafe.

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