Francesca Albanese

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'There are no red lines anymore' says UN Palestinian rights expert on US sanctions

Some Israelis are protesting against their government and the IDF. But whether I choose to engage with particular posters or issues on MN doesn’t affect anyone’s life so I will continue to pick & choose.

You don’t see many Palestinians protesting against the actions of Hamas let alone against something that is still just an idea that may not happen. To be fair to them, in some cases that will be because they fear the retribution that Hamas often delivers to any citizen that dares to protest against them.

Why more of the pro Palestinian people in the West don’t protest against Hamas continuing to hold Israeli hostages I couldn’t say. But again, the silence is deafening.

Who is saying that Francesca Albanaese is antisemitic simply because she criticised the Israeli government?

Yup that’s the one.

You have completely missed the point haven't you?

Interesting stats @LipstickLessonsI wonder what the table would have looked like in early 2023.

As I read that, I wondered whether previous Special Rapporteurs had also been labelled anti semitic/Disgusting Anti Semite and the like.

Guess what? They have been! Literally all of them. Funny that. People appointed to independently review Israel’s actions and policies in relation to Palestinians and Palestine get labelled Anti-Semitic.

How convenient? Attack the individuals and proclaim their comments are driven by hate as a mechanism to validate abhorrent policies.

www.instagram.com/reel/DMKfyjWNVt4/

Those stats clearly demonstrate that rhetoric can only achieve so much. Actions speak far louder of course. In these days when so much is revealed online (discounting the fake elements of course) people throughout the world are able to see for themselves the actions of whichever governments are causing the atrocities.

Who commissioned this survey and for what purpose?

I think you will be massively disappointed when this war is over, Hamas and their supporters blood libels and subterfuge are fully uncovered, and as well as freeing Palestinians from Hamas, normalising relations with other Arab countries in the region (as well as having metaphorically castrated Iran as well as Hezbollah), Israel will come back much stronger than before.

The hatred of Jewish people will continue in the West though and the pro-Palestinians will push back hard for a bit furious they didn’t achieve their goal, for a few years. Anti-Semitism will ebb and flow. People dislike and fear what they can’t understand which is the crux of it, and that is that Jewish people are disproportionately represented as highly intelligent, successful, and innovative along with the remnants of religious doctrine passed down through generations to hate and be suspicious of Judaism after the split in followers of Jesus which much of the West were historically.

Did they say antisemitic things? Like complaining about the Jewish lobby or denying the antisemitism of the October 7th attacks?

Yes, the numbers speak for themselves, they've just gotten worse and worse over the past two years.

People can waste their time online defending Israel but so long as there is no shift in the government and society there, there is nothing they can say or do that is going to work. Things like sanctioning people for speaking their mind whilst removing sanctions on violent extremist settlers just push people further away from their cause. You can't bully people into liking you.

No!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-says-gaza-to-be-totally-destroyed-population-concentrated-in-small-area/amp/

Smotrich talks of “concentration” of the space in which Palestinians should live (but not be able to leave)
Other people use the same terminology, and get accused of using Nazi terminology and being Anti Semites.

This is an elected government minister. This is the policy which you are supporting, including the policy of using baiting language to discredit and deflect from serious discussion.
Do we have to criticize this by carefully noting the language he uses, and compare it to the language we cannot use. Before moving on to the comparisons which everyone is supposed to see, but not mention. Before criticizing the policy itself.
For all it’s worth, because critics always get smeared anti Semite.

And lastly, on genocide and language, what words do you find acceptable that describe the scale of destruction and death in Gaza, holding Israel responsible for their asymmetric choices and actions, and indicating that an independent judicial inquiry is needed, with the option of long prison terms at the end of it.

Where else in the world would an extreme far right government not only be tolerated, but be actively supported?

Benjamin Netanyahu returns to power as new far-right Israeli government is sworn in today - CBS News https://share.google/4ioA1IrdMFK68qymu

Priority to 'expand settlements in the West Bank' no less.

That's 2022.

Please point out where I have expressed support for Smotrich or his policies. It's a rich of you to criticise others for smearing when you come out with that.

You and your facts again.

Well yes, I know that. Their far right government has been in place for three years. Nobody seems to mind though.

Nobody seems to mind? Are you new here?

The far-right politicians shaping Israel's war policies https://share.google/ct0Rd09fNM9LlPk6z

You're aware of the existence of sarcasm?

Is that why you said BN is sworn in today?

I've never seen anyone express support for Smotrich here.

I didn't say that. I posted an article from 2022 that said he was sworn in.....in 2022.

Yes, and the fact that it's difficult to convey over text.