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Conflict in the Middle East

Francesca Albanese

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BeJollyNewt · 13/07/2025 22:20

'There are no red lines anymore' says UN Palestinian rights expert on US sanctions

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Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 22:34

Is she promoting a new book?

BeJollyNewt · 14/07/2025 08:05

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/a-hrc-59-23-from-economy-of-occupation-to-economy-of-genocide-report-special-rapporteur-francesca-albanese-palestine-2025/

From economy of occupation to economy of genocide - (A/HRC/59/23) Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 (Advance unedited version) - Question of Palestine

  To learn more about Special Procedures of the UN Human Rights Council and the Question of Palestine, click here to visit the dedicated webpage. Human Rights Council Fifty-ninth session 16 June–11 July 2025 Agenda item 7: Human rights situation in P...

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/a-hrc-59-23-from-economy-of-occupation-to-economy-of-genocide-report-special-rapporteur-francesca-albanese-palestine-2025/

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Mabari · 14/07/2025 10:36

She also thinks that America is "subjugated by the Jewish lobby".

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 10:38

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 10:01

I pay no heed to the UN on this matter.

When I see Russia and China on human rights committees, or Iran on a committee for women's rights I wonder if it's some misguided attempt at 'community service' to help them see the error of their ways.
Then I give my head a wobble and realise it's the world of geopolitics....apparently size matters, who knew?

smallglassbottle · 14/07/2025 10:52

I don't know what's more depressing, the fact that people here are supporting genocide or that this site allows it. I don't suppose they understand how it even works.

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 10:56

smallglassbottle · 14/07/2025 10:52

I don't know what's more depressing, the fact that people here are supporting genocide or that this site allows it. I don't suppose they understand how it even works.

I don't think anyone here supports genocide. If this site depresses you, look after your mental health.

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:16

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 10:56

I don't think anyone here supports genocide. If this site depresses you, look after your mental health.

Quite. More attempts at guilt tripping.

smallglassbottle · 14/07/2025 11:17

Oh I think we do know that people are defending genocide. Removing language doesn't decrease knowledge. It's more of an existential depression surrounding what others are capable of, rather than a personal experience.

smallglassbottle · 14/07/2025 11:19

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:16

Quite. More attempts at guilt tripping.

I'm not seeing guilt. Mocking perhaps, but not guilt. You can't use the usual techniques on people, it's not working.

We see
God sees

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:20

smallglassbottle · 14/07/2025 11:19

I'm not seeing guilt. Mocking perhaps, but not guilt. You can't use the usual techniques on people, it's not working.

We see
God sees

I'm glad God sees. He also sees his Israel being targeted.

Mabari · 14/07/2025 11:21

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 10:56

I don't think anyone here supports genocide. If this site depresses you, look after your mental health.

Who here is supporting genocide?

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:23

Mabari · 14/07/2025 10:36

She also thinks that America is "subjugated by the Jewish lobby".

She’s not alone is thinking that.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2003/10/23/israel-the-alternative/

The author is Jewish, and is a very well respected professor of history.

Israel: The Alternative | Tony Judt

The Middle East peace process is finished. It did not die: it was killed. Mahmoud Abbas was undermined by the President of the Palestinian Authority and

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2003/10/23/israel-the-alternative/

Mercurial123 · 14/07/2025 11:26

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:16

Quite. More attempts at guilt tripping.

Nobody in their right mind will openly admit supporting a genocide online though.

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:27

Mabari · 14/07/2025 10:36

She also thinks that America is "subjugated by the Jewish lobby".

You say that as if it is obviously crazy talk.

But how would you assess whether it is true? I mean, at least the UK owned that they had a “Special Relationship” with the US (for all it was worth when push came to shove). Many people have independently arrived at the same conclusion, and you’re view is that it cannot even be mentioned?

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:31

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:20

I'm glad God sees. He also sees his Israel being targeted.

Oi oi, hope you're not misgendering god, personification of deities gives them human flaws. God didn't create man in his image as per genesis, rather the other way round.

I like Dave Allen's take, 'may your God go with you'. He knew a thing or two about religious divisions.

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:32

Mercurial123 · 14/07/2025 11:26

Nobody in their right mind will openly admit supporting a genocide online though.

One would have to believe a genocide is taking place, to feel guilt. There was a genocide on 7/10. People, (unwittingly), show their support for that.

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 11:33

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:31

Oi oi, hope you're not misgendering god, personification of deities gives them human flaws. God didn't create man in his image as per genesis, rather the other way round.

I like Dave Allen's take, 'may your God go with you'. He knew a thing or two about religious divisions.

😆 🤣 fair point

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:35

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:27

You say that as if it is obviously crazy talk.

But how would you assess whether it is true? I mean, at least the UK owned that they had a “Special Relationship” with the US (for all it was worth when push came to shove). Many people have independently arrived at the same conclusion, and you’re view is that it cannot even be mentioned?

How would you assess it's influence in American politics compared to the NRA, BLM, the oil lobby. Politics is a mess of balancing competing interests, geopolitics even more so, the UN is an interesting and slightly terrifying case study.

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:45

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:35

How would you assess it's influence in American politics compared to the NRA, BLM, the oil lobby. Politics is a mess of balancing competing interests, geopolitics even more so, the UN is an interesting and slightly terrifying case study.

The difference is that the NRA and others are made up of US citizens and are subject to US law.

The general rule is that a country should not work against its own best interests in service to another sovereign nation. Especially without oversight. Or do you see it differently.

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:47

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:35

How would you assess it's influence in American politics compared to the NRA, BLM, the oil lobby. Politics is a mess of balancing competing interests, geopolitics even more so, the UN is an interesting and slightly terrifying case study.

… and the implication we are expected to draw “The NRA lobbies, therefore IDF action in Gaza are not to be scrutinized” is reprehensible.

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 11:59

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:47

… and the implication we are expected to draw “The NRA lobbies, therefore IDF action in Gaza are not to be scrutinized” is reprehensible.

I hear there are two types of people, those that extrapolate conclusions from incomplete data

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 12:03

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:45

The difference is that the NRA and others are made up of US citizens and are subject to US law.

The general rule is that a country should not work against its own best interests in service to another sovereign nation. Especially without oversight. Or do you see it differently.

You think there are no other countries lobbying the US?
You also seem to think Israel is able to persuade the US to work against it's best interest.
I suspect some bias on your part.

Anonimummy · 14/07/2025 13:02

Isn’t Albanese the disgusting anti-semite who pretends to be a lawyer, has been sanctioned by the US personally and has been funded by pro Hamas groups?

Anonimummy · 14/07/2025 13:10

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 11:27

You say that as if it is obviously crazy talk.

But how would you assess whether it is true? I mean, at least the UK owned that they had a “Special Relationship” with the US (for all it was worth when push came to shove). Many people have independently arrived at the same conclusion, and you’re view is that it cannot even be mentioned?

Says something that 2.4% of the population (the vast majority ordinary people without any more power than the average American) can ‘subjugate’ the rest of the population doesn’t it?

On another note I discovered yesterday that all the major superhero characters including Marvel, DC and X-Men were created by Jews.

Maybe they were hiding in plain sight😉

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