Israeli soldier openly talks about how the IDF kill innocent Palestinians

[Whatsinanamehey]

This is one of the most shameful articles I have read regarding the IDF's war crimes in Gaza.

This soldier talks openly how they would shoot innocent Palestinians and how it was like the wild west. The commanders would act depending on how they felt that day. Whether to shoot innocent civilians or kidnap them. Some held the belief that there are no innocents in Gaza and acted accordingly and this belief and subsequent war crimes were not challenged.

It's a hard read but a must. Especially for those who insist the IDF are only fighting Hamas and innocents are just caught up. This article aswell as many others shows that innocents have always been targeted.

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

It is a hard read, but I doubt those who continue to assert that innocent civilian Palestinians are not targetted, or are merely collateral damage, are going to be moved by it. There is generally an inherent belief that one group is inferior to the other, and thus expendable, behind such arguments - whether conscious or not. Some justification will be found for it. If the number of children that have been killed doen't move them, I doubt any other evidence will.

I don’t suppose this admission will come as a surprise to many people.

I don't think it will for those who support the IDF or those who oppose their war crimes. It was blatantly obvious that innocent civilians were being targeted and killed. One side just chooses to remain blind to it.

There is generally an inherent belief that one group is inferior to the other, and thus expendable, behind such arguments - whether conscious or not.

@EasternEcho unfortunately, this is true for many even if it is subconsciously.

I agree with these posts. What are we doing about it? Me included

And encouraging that Sky News has the courage to broadcast it. This won't be an isloated incident either which he alludes to in his interview.

"They'd say: 'Yeah, but these people didn't do anything to prevent October 7, and they probably had fun when this was happening to us. So they deserve to die'."

He added: "People don't feel mercy for them."

"I think a lot of them really felt like they were doing something good," he said. "I think the core of it, that in their mind, these people aren't innocent."

The thing is, many IDF soldiers are barely more than kids in their late teens early 20s, facing off against hardened Hamas fighters who are fearless, intimately familiar with the terrain, and likely have limited formal training yet they’re armed with powerful vehicles and munitions and often have only split seconds to determine who is innocent and who is a foe.

For instance, the seven soldiers who died on June 24th made the fatal mistake of leaving a hatch open on their APC, allowing a Hamas fighter to emerge from the shadows and drop an IED inside killing them all.They are not monsters just probably scared and reckless young men in the wrong place at the wrong time.

www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-idf-casualties

They are being ordered to kill innocent civilians time and time again by their superiors and they have no qualms about it. They might not see themselves as monsters but are carrying out monstrous crimes that there is no excuse for. A Palestinian life is not worth less than any Israelis.

People don't want to hear what war crimes IDF soldiers are carrying out when Palestinians speak of it and will dismiss it as Hamas propaganda. Now that more and more IDF soldiers are slowly coming forward they will still try to excuse it. As the solider says:

"I think a lot of people, if they knew exactly what's happening, it wouldn't go down very well for them, and they wouldn't agree with it. I hope that by speaking of it, it can change how things are being done."

They are too stuck on insisting that its just a fight against Hamas and any crimes are just carried out by a few rogue soldiers. However, the testimonies of the soldiers show this mindset comes from the top. Killing innocent Palestinians is justified by commanders.

At some point when the war is over, more and more of these soldiers will testify of their crimes, whether they regret or boast of it. And nothing or very little will be done.

And those who support the IDF will plead ignorance to these crimes even when soldiers themselves admit to them.

All wars are full of young, scared 19 year olds. But that doesn't excuse systematic killing of civillians. Your post is so indicative of the problem. Here we an Isreaeli soldier admitting to orders to kill civilians, and yet you find some reason to excuse them. That's why I say articles like these will do nothing to change minds already made up.

It is the same exact story from the Palestinians. They’ve been killing innocent civilians too, then boast about it on camera.

It doesn't excuse it. Its awful.

War requires that soldiers dehumanize the enemy, otherwise the dissonance required to repeatedly kill them would be too difficult to overcome and soldiers would be morally paralyzed thus ineffective.

Idf dehumanizes Palestinians. Hamas and those that joined in on 7 October dehumanized Israelis.

War is always, always an absolute tragedy. For those who are killed, those who lose loved family members, those who lose something human inside themselves in order to kill, those who are radicalized by the violence, those who are damaged by the violence.

We all hope this war ends soon.

So you believe the IDF and Hamas carry out the same crimes. Yet one is rightfully condemned and the other is considered an ally by our hypocritical government.

It wasn’t the IDF that started this whole thing. Western governments stand by Israel because it is a free democratic society with human rights and all. Their way of life is much closer to ours than the one that wants to impose sharia law and the oppression of women.

This is what I mean. The dehumanisation of the Palestinians is so entrenched in some that they will any justification to excuse their unlawful murder even if it is 'They aren't like us'

You just proved @EasternEcho point

There is generally an inherent belief that one group is inferior to the other, and thus expendable, behind such arguments - whether conscious or not.

This started in the 1940s, not October 7. And not by the Palestinians.

What do want people to say? Of course I feel sorry for the civilians on BOTH sides. Killing civilians is an unavoidable part of a war.
Do you want to talk about how Hamas use their civilians as a shield? It is well-documented in the media. No, instead you want to blame the Israelis.

Who started the first Arab / Palestinian vs Israel war?

Do you want to talk about how the IDF use Palestinians as human shields which is well documented?

Why are the actions of the IDF always excused? Do Palestinian lives count less?

So what I don't understand is how everyone missed the point of the Glastonbury situation..why were people getting upset at the shouting of ....death to the IDF ....,and saying it's anti-Semitic.
The IDF isn't a religion,it's a army or police force..so it can't be classed as anti Semitic to be against it
Plus why were people getting more upset with what he shouted and linking it to that lady in prison for her Facebook post .
Two different things
IDF are murdering innocent people in food lines ..why is that swept under the carpet in this country and people more upset about someone shouting about the IDF
Feels like the world has gone mad at the moment

I dont excuse the actions of Hamas for killing innocent Israelis. The double standards are so stark.

Oh give over. This is wearing a bit thin now. Open your eyes.