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Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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mids2019 · 29/06/2025 06:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Bobby Vylan of British duo Bob Vylan performs on the West Holts Stage

Police review footage of chants led by Glastonbury acts

The government condemned chants from rap duo Bob Vylan which were streamed live and called for "death" to the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

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Quirkswork · 30/06/2025 17:55

YourOnMute · 30/06/2025 17:31

Yes, it is because it's clearly not fit for purpose. It's not acting upon humanitarian principles for the delivery of aid. It's a disaster.
Netanyahu stated in June that Israel is supporting another armed group opposing Hamas in Gaza and this group also controls aid. Another disaster.
He also supported Hamas as a foil to the PLO in the past.
And so on, and so on. This never works.

(Forgot the original post apologies)

It's an army defending its country. That's its purpose.

War criminals can be tried in due course like all other armies in a war.

NiMaithLiomDeLuain · 30/06/2025 18:15

greencartbluecart · 30/06/2025 17:27

Death to the Russian army - how would that have been taken? As anti Russian or anti war? as incitement to violence or an expression of support for Ukraine ?

differnt rules always apply to anything associated with Isreal it seems to me

edit to add caveat - I think death to anything isn’t a good chant

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I personally think it's a dangerous road to go down to conflate wanting the end of a occupying foreign army currently engaged in mass slaughter with wanting the end of Jews. It seems like lots of people are very eager to strengthen that connection though between the IDF and Jews. I'm not sure why, it doesn't seem to be achieving anything but it doesn't effect me so if that's why they want to spend their time doing they can crack on.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:17

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 30/06/2025 17:38

Oh yawn. Stop killing Gazans, is what I think about all this. That’s surely the real crime, not some daft pop stars.

Yep and time for the BBC to stop broadcasting from Glastonbury

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:19

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 17:29

A crowd full of people who dont even realise how racist what they are saying is.
Thanks for posting this @Twiglets1 as usual I'm grateful to those more eloquent than me.

A crowd full of people who dont even realise how racist what they are saying is.
The IDF aren't a race and don't assume you know what the crowd do and don't know

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 18:27

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:19

A crowd full of people who dont even realise how racist what they are saying is.
The IDF aren't a race and don't assume you know what the crowd do and don't know

The crowd were calling for the end of the IDF without considering what the end of the IDF means, just like you just did.
They were calling for the nation of Israel to have no defensive force.
Do you wish for that too?
Or did you, and they, just fail to think through what the end of the IDF would mean for Israel?
Again as so often, either ignorance or racism. You can pick, I'm out.

TakeMe2Insanity · 30/06/2025 18:29

As mumsnetters are at pains to tell us the idf aside from being the most moral army is an army containing Jews, Muslims, Christians and Dreuze. So any comment re the idf cannot be racist.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:32

TakeMe2Insanity · 30/06/2025 18:29

As mumsnetters are at pains to tell us the idf aside from being the most moral army is an army containing Jews, Muslims, Christians and Dreuze. So any comment re the idf cannot be racist.

It is a military force currently committing war crimes I am sure chants at Glastonbury are not going to rattle them. The level of reaching here is outstanding

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:35

dairydebris · 30/06/2025 18:27

The crowd were calling for the end of the IDF without considering what the end of the IDF means, just like you just did.
They were calling for the nation of Israel to have no defensive force.
Do you wish for that too?
Or did you, and they, just fail to think through what the end of the IDF would mean for Israel?
Again as so often, either ignorance or racism. You can pick, I'm out.

Nah you still have convinced me that the IDF are a race

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:40

A criminal investigation has been launched into the Glastonbury performances of Kneecap and Bob Vylan.

Police announced the decision on Monday afternoon after reviewing video footage and audio of both sets, which took place on Saturday.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:46

Clare Moody, the Police and Crime Commissioner for Avon and Somerset, said she “understood the legitimate concerns raised and the potential impact of these performances”.

She said: “I want to be clear that any incitement to violence is not acceptable and will not be tolerated in Avon and Somerset.

“Avon and Somerset Police have confirmed to me that they are undertaking an investigation. It is important that the police follow operational procedures and investigate carefully and thoroughly, as they would in any reports of this kind.

“I want to reassure our Jewish communities that any concerns you have about your safety will be taken seriously by Avon and Somerset Police.”

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 18:47

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:40

A criminal investigation has been launched into the Glastonbury performances of Kneecap and Bob Vylan.

Police announced the decision on Monday afternoon after reviewing video footage and audio of both sets, which took place on Saturday.

Kneecap are just being included in this for press. They didn’t say a single thing that was antisemitic, or would be classed as hate speech.
There was nothing remotely illegal in the performance.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 30/06/2025 18:48

@ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend I disagree. Leave the BBC alone. Israels government are the real offenders, as most of us can see.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:49

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:35

Nah you still have convinced me that the IDF are a race

No one is saying that the IDF are a race.

However, their soldiers are predominantly Jewish. And it is their job to defend Israel from those like Hamas who have pledged to obliterate all the Jews.

thethingthatshouldnotbee · 30/06/2025 18:51

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 18:47

Kneecap are just being included in this for press. They didn’t say a single thing that was antisemitic, or would be classed as hate speech.
There was nothing remotely illegal in the performance.

Not in this performance anyway.

Zombiefluff · 30/06/2025 18:53

thethingthatshouldnotbee · 30/06/2025 18:51

Not in this performance anyway.

And we are discussing kneecap being shoehorned into this investigation because someone else chanted “death to the IDF”.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:53

Personally, I wouldn't expect the police to prosecute Kneecap but I would expect them to prosecute the other idiots. We'll see.

thethingthatshouldnotbee · 30/06/2025 18:55

Aren't they being investigated for encouraging people to riot?

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:58

A Jewish group is calling for Bob Vylan to be axed from RADAR Festival in Manchester this weekend so here's hoping.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:00

thethingthatshouldnotbee · 30/06/2025 18:55

Aren't they being investigated for encouraging people to riot?

It has been recorded as a public order incident apparently.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2025 19:01

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 30/06/2025 15:27

It’s a lot more complex than that.
These purchases often led to the displacement of Arab tenant farmers and in some cases, entire villages were depopulated. Some evicted families received compensation, others didn’t.

The "displacement of Arab tenant farmers" was due to the absentee owners chucking them out after they'd sold the land to Jews who bought it legally. Have you never been chucked out of a flat because the owner wanted to sell it? I have. Admittedly a long time ago. Yet Jews are being blamed for buying property from landlords who didn't treat their tenants very well. But the mythology persists. Mainly as the result of Arab propaganda who own 98% of land in the Middle East and ain't gonna share it with nobody. Hence the ethnic cleansing of Jews, Christians, Druze and everybody else.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:04

Punk duo Bob Vylan chanted “death to the IDF” and complained about working for a “f*ing Zionist.” Their live stream was not taken down from the BBC, which the corporation today said it “regrets,” while the duo have since been dropped by UTA.

Kneecap were heard accusing Israel of genocide and chanting “free, free Palestine,” while voicing support for Palestine Action, a protest group that the UK government intends to proscribe under anti-terror laws.

https://deadline.com/2025/06/bob-vylan-amp-kneecap-glastonbury-sets-investigated-by-police-1236445827/

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Dangermoo · 30/06/2025 19:07

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 18:46

Clare Moody, the Police and Crime Commissioner for Avon and Somerset, said she “understood the legitimate concerns raised and the potential impact of these performances”.

She said: “I want to be clear that any incitement to violence is not acceptable and will not be tolerated in Avon and Somerset.

“Avon and Somerset Police have confirmed to me that they are undertaking an investigation. It is important that the police follow operational procedures and investigate carefully and thoroughly, as they would in any reports of this kind.

“I want to reassure our Jewish communities that any concerns you have about your safety will be taken seriously by Avon and Somerset Police.”

Good job the police are taking it more seriously than some on this thread.

Quirkswork · 30/06/2025 19:08

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:04

Punk duo Bob Vylan chanted “death to the IDF” and complained about working for a “f*ing Zionist.” Their live stream was not taken down from the BBC, which the corporation today said it “regrets,” while the duo have since been dropped by UTA.

Kneecap were heard accusing Israel of genocide and chanting “free, free Palestine,” while voicing support for Palestine Action, a protest group that the UK government intends to proscribe under anti-terror laws.

https://deadline.com/2025/06/bob-vylan-amp-kneecap-glastonbury-sets-investigated-by-police-1236445827/

If they shouted "Free Palestine from Hamas" I could see their point ....

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