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Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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mids2019 · 29/06/2025 06:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

Bobby Vylan of British duo Bob Vylan performs on the West Holts Stage

Police review footage of chants led by Glastonbury acts

The government condemned chants from rap duo Bob Vylan which were streamed live and called for "death" to the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

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JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 29/06/2025 09:41

I'm ready to give a tenner to any person in that crowd able to correctly identify a) the river and b) the sea.

OVienna · 29/06/2025 09:42

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 06:19

Dunno. They seem to have forgotten what happened at another music festival, with innocent young people enjoying the music before they were the victims of an atrocity.
Perhaps a nod to that would have been appropriate.

This

NCForThatForumM · 29/06/2025 09:43

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They're not anti Israel comments, are they? Hamas are not going to drive Israelis into the sea they're going to drove the Jewish people into the Sea leaving the 20% Arab population behind. And then kill all the gay people.

These "comments" are very specially aimed at Jewish and Gay people, not Israelis.

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 09:43

MissyB1 · 29/06/2025 09:38

Yet another person who equates Palestinian with terrorist. Just like when I was a child because my family were Irish catholics it was assumed we supported the IRA.

I think the issue is governments. Whoever is in control. Hamas, Netanyahu, Trump, Starmer. They decide. They are the ones to be held accountable ultimately for whatever they lead their own people into.

Lindos1 · 29/06/2025 09:44

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What 'murdering' were Jewish people doing in 1930s Germany, that culminated in the Holocaust?

MissyB1 · 29/06/2025 09:45

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 09:43

I think the issue is governments. Whoever is in control. Hamas, Netanyahu, Trump, Starmer. They decide. They are the ones to be held accountable ultimately for whatever they lead their own people into.

Yes I agree, which is why im so bloody against the collective punishment being dished out to the Palestinian people.

quantumbutterfly · 29/06/2025 09:48

MissyB1 · 29/06/2025 09:45

Yes I agree, which is why im so bloody against the collective punishment being dished out to the Palestinian people.

But not against the collective demonisation of Israelis and Jews?

NCForThatForumM · 29/06/2025 09:52

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 29/06/2025 09:41

I'm ready to give a tenner to any person in that crowd able to correctly identify a) the river and b) the sea.

They might not know the geographical area (although I bet they do) but they know for sure what will happen in the area taken over by Islamists.

It's no excuse to say "They only want to kill all the Jewish and gay people in an area the size of Hampshire, they don't know they're actually calling for the killing of all the gay and Jewish people in an area the size of Wales."

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/06/2025 09:52

Lindos1 · 29/06/2025 09:44

What 'murdering' were Jewish people doing in 1930s Germany, that culminated in the Holocaust?

None… which is why people look at the starving skin-and-bone children in Gaza and wonder how it can have come to this.

Bumble6 · 29/06/2025 09:55

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It's refreshing to see a post like this showing what many people REALLY think, especially their views on the Hamas attack at the festival. I hope mumsnet don't remove it.

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 09:58

quantumbutterfly · 29/06/2025 09:48

But not against the collective demonisation of Israelis and Jews?

Exactly

NiMaithLiomDeLuain · 29/06/2025 09:58

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 09:37

Agree completely. People need to take a step back and look at what's happening in our own country.

They are. The government is supporting the mass killing and starvation of the people of Gaza. That is what is happening 'in our own country'. People are mad about it. Go figure.

Alexandra2001 · 29/06/2025 09:59

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EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 10:00

quantumbutterfly · 29/06/2025 09:48

But not against the collective demonisation of Israelis and Jews?

Will this be answered

NCForThatForumM · 29/06/2025 10:00

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/06/2025 09:52

None… which is why people look at the starving skin-and-bone children in Gaza and wonder how it can have come to this.

Becaise they spend all their aid on weapons, and they do their absolute best to fight everyone around them and themselves.

If they had stopped fighting and spent the aid money on improving their own lot Gaza would look like Monacco. (And Israelis and Palestinians would be mixed together in a happy melting pot.)

Dangermoo · 29/06/2025 10:00

I won't watch the rabble. As for the bigotry clown who "accidentally picked up a Palestinian flag", I hope they throw the book at him.

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/06/2025 10:00

People shouting “death to the Jews” yes I can understand why jewish people are afraid.

Palestinians being starved to death, being killed my military death squads, being eradicated as a whole people, yes I can understand why people are angry and want the killing, the genocide and blockade to stop.

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 10:01

NiMaithLiomDeLuain · 29/06/2025 09:58

They are. The government is supporting the mass killing and starvation of the people of Gaza. That is what is happening 'in our own country'. People are mad about it. Go figure.

The UK has no power to affect anything happening in Gaza.

If you are anti war then that's fine. But presumably you are anti all war and out protesting against all other conflicts in the World. The sea of flags at Glastonbury suggest people are only preoccupied with this war. There must be something "special" about this one presumably. And the fact Jews are scared on the streets of the UK indicates what that "special" factor is.

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/06/2025 10:02

NCForThatForumM · 29/06/2025 10:00

Becaise they spend all their aid on weapons, and they do their absolute best to fight everyone around them and themselves.

If they had stopped fighting and spent the aid money on improving their own lot Gaza would look like Monacco. (And Israelis and Palestinians would be mixed together in a happy melting pot.)

With Trump and BN sunbathing? And you with a timeshare?? Ok hun.

Dangermoo · 29/06/2025 10:02

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 29/06/2025 09:41

I'm ready to give a tenner to any person in that crowd able to correctly identify a) the river and b) the sea.

😆 🤣 😂 👏

NCForThatForumM · 29/06/2025 10:04

TakeMe2Insanity · 29/06/2025 10:00

People shouting “death to the Jews” yes I can understand why jewish people are afraid.

Palestinians being starved to death, being killed my military death squads, being eradicated as a whole people, yes I can understand why people are angry and want the killing, the genocide and blockade to stop.

Which side want the killing to stop? If the killing stops Israel has won. So self evidently Palestinians want the killing to continue so they can get their land back. The idea Israel want this to continue is blatantly wrong.

NiMaithLiomDeLuain · 29/06/2025 10:04

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 10:01

The UK has no power to affect anything happening in Gaza.

If you are anti war then that's fine. But presumably you are anti all war and out protesting against all other conflicts in the World. The sea of flags at Glastonbury suggest people are only preoccupied with this war. There must be something "special" about this one presumably. And the fact Jews are scared on the streets of the UK indicates what that "special" factor is.

They have the power to denounce what is happening and to put sanctions on murderous oppressive regimes. They've done it for other murderous oppressive regimes but some how Israel have the 'special factor' and are immune to the same treatment.

Greenartywitch · 29/06/2025 10:04

Because we have free speech still and because people should be able to express concerns for civilian populations being harmed and killed?

I have no love for Hamas but equally I think that what the Israeli are doing has gone way beyond protecting their citizens.

Nobody is forcing you to watch/go to Glastonbury or to listen to the bands/artists who are making these comments.

Katie717 · 29/06/2025 10:06

Quirkswork · 29/06/2025 09:43

I think the issue is governments. Whoever is in control. Hamas, Netanyahu, Trump, Starmer. They decide. They are the ones to be held accountable ultimately for whatever they lead their own people into.

The Palestinian people voted for Hamas to be their government.

1dayatatime · 29/06/2025 10:06

@Martymcfly24

So in answer to @mids2019 OP there are several reasons for "knobs at Glastonbury "

On the left ever since Marxism and the proletariat and bourgeoisie there is a view of a victim and oppressor. That even if the "proletariat " is lifted out of poverty and is financially much better off by getting employed by say the "bourgeoisie" in a new factory then regardless they are still a "victim " because the "bourgeoisie" are financially gaining more so that the "proletariat " are still being "oppressed ".

In the case of conflicts the left will always view the stronger side as the oppressor regardless of the origins of the conflict. So to take a few examples Japan starts a war with the US bombing Pearl Harbour killing 2,400 people, the US retaliates defeating Japan, killing 3 million Japanese (including 500k to 1 million civilians). But because the US was stronger the left would view the US as the oppressors and the Japanese as the victims regardless of the origin of the conflict (including that the origins of this conflict go much further back than 7 December 1941).

Similarly the 7th October attacks by Hamas caused 1,139 deaths but because Israel have killed 56,000 Gazans to date (Hamas figures) then Israel are the oppressors and the Gazans are the victims.

Lastly to take a hypothetical playground example if a bully "Bob" hit a boy "Jeff" because of a long lasting animosity but it turned out that Jeff was an amateur boxer who in retaliation knocked the shit out of Bob, then under a leftist view Bob is the victim.

Bob Vylan was desperately trying to be "popular " with the crowd with his chants of "death to the IDF". Quite frankly if he thought he would get more "popularity points " with chants of "death to gingers" he would have done that instead. Which is pathetic, hate filled and not dissimilar to the anti semetic rants of the Nazis trying to get "popularity points" with 1930s Germans. So yes there are "knobs" at Glastonbury.

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