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EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:15

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2025 12:14

He’s just upset about his big beautiful ceasefire.

Are you not? Wouldn’t you prefer a ceasefire?

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 12:17

Regarding the breach of the ceasefire, I have no words.....
And I am reading that Trump said he was not happy with any of the two, but particularly Israel? That would ve a slight turn of wording.

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:18

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 12:17

Regarding the breach of the ceasefire, I have no words.....
And I am reading that Trump said he was not happy with any of the two, but particularly Israel? That would ve a slight turn of wording.

Yes, he could just be saying it to placate Iran that he's being 'fair' or whatever. Never know what's going on in his head or what games politicians are constantly playing.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:20

US can lean on Israel rn I think. If Iran strikes again then it’s probably all bets off but I think Israel should not retaliate.

Idc about caps and one up on Trump as pp since more bombing as the alternative is no good for anyone.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2025 12:24

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:15

Are you not? Wouldn’t you prefer a ceasefire?

Yes. But unlike Donald I’m not daft enough to think this was a forever ceasefire or that either side would uphold it. It was never going to happen.

https://x.com/cspan/status/1937468807536169315

Honestly, he’s really pissed off. The whole thing has been an absolute farce from beginning to end. And we still don’t know where the enhanced uranium is because Iran likely emptied as much as they could from Fordow weeks ago.

https://x.com/cspan/status/1937468807536169315

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:25

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:20

US can lean on Israel rn I think. If Iran strikes again then it’s probably all bets off but I think Israel should not retaliate.

Idc about caps and one up on Trump as pp since more bombing as the alternative is no good for anyone.

I agree with this. I'm just not sure I trust Israel to not retaliate.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:27

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:25

I agree with this. I'm just not sure I trust Israel to not retaliate.

US seems to hold power in the form of weapons at this moment I’d be tempted to use that. Whether Israel’s anger would override that idk

If Iran keep striking then they are foolish and it will be returned.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2025 12:28

Bibi has played Trump like a cheap fiddle and humiliated him on the world stage.

There is very little chance of either Iran or Israel upholding a ceasefire.

BelleHathor · 24/06/2025 12:28

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:04

@Bellehathor I was wondering this. Well we know Trump is BIGLY serious this time with Israel because he has written the whole message in capital letters, not just a few words.

This man is, I have no words. Gaslighting doesn't quite cover it. A destabilising force. Crazy, no wonder Elon was allegedly "high" when working with him.

3 1/2 years to go, what next.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:29

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2025 12:28

Bibi has played Trump like a cheap fiddle and humiliated him on the world stage.

There is very little chance of either Iran or Israel upholding a ceasefire.

They had the chance. If Iran breaks it they are foolish.

I’d give them a chance after one strike but more and it’s their own decision.

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 12:30

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:18

Yes, he could just be saying it to placate Iran that he's being 'fair' or whatever. Never know what's going on in his head or what games politicians are constantly playing.

I just have seen his capital letters indeed.
I am not following this. No idea of what it means, but I really do not want any country to be used as a tool by another and well, Netanyahu does make a great effort of presenting the US president as his tool.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:31

BelleHathor · 24/06/2025 12:28

This man is, I have no words. Gaslighting doesn't quite cover it. A destabilising force. Crazy, no wonder Elon was allegedly "high" when working with him.

3 1/2 years to go, what next.

Surely you do want a ceasefire? Wouldn’t you say it’s bad if Iran strike?

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:35

Trump insists ceasefire is in effect

Moments after Air Force One departed with Donald Trump on-board, the US president has posted a fresh Truth Social insisting that "the ceasefire is in effect".
Trump writes: "Israel is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'plane wave' to Iran.
"Nobody will be hurt, the ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:35

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:31

Surely you do want a ceasefire? Wouldn’t you say it’s bad if Iran strike?

Where has belle indicated she doesn't want a ceasefire?

Who wouldn't want a ceasefire?

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:37

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:35

Where has belle indicated she doesn't want a ceasefire?

Who wouldn't want a ceasefire?

Why not focus on what is being said rather than the ‘bigly’ stuff.

The message to Israel is do not drop another bomb.

Do you think that’s the right message?

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 12:38

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:35

Trump insists ceasefire is in effect

Moments after Air Force One departed with Donald Trump on-board, the US president has posted a fresh Truth Social insisting that "the ceasefire is in effect".
Trump writes: "Israel is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'plane wave' to Iran.
"Nobody will be hurt, the ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

Is this the latest? Meaning they are back to a ceasefire?

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:39

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:35

Trump insists ceasefire is in effect

Moments after Air Force One departed with Donald Trump on-board, the US president has posted a fresh Truth Social insisting that "the ceasefire is in effect".
Trump writes: "Israel is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'plane wave' to Iran.
"Nobody will be hurt, the ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

Hopefully so.

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:39

I think people are speculating if it will hold or not. Personally, I'm of the opinion it will, as continuous war will badly affect both sides.

Although Israel is far better equipped, Iran has still managed to bypass their air defence causing quite alot of damage. Iran is reporting over 500 killed. I don't think either side want to see this continue.

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 12:40

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:09

Tbf Israel should not retaliate.

100%

katem98 · 24/06/2025 12:40

@MushMonster This is the latest direct from the BBC Live Feed. Not sure if ceasefire is confirmed, no update from Israel or Iran this is just from Trump.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:42

@WhatsinanameheyI hope so. The way the message is delivered is less important than it holding imo

Israel may be angry but now is where they do turn around.

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 12:44

What Trump actually said:

In extraordinary comments, Donald Trump tells reporters Israel and Iran "don't know what the f they're doing" as he leaves the White House for the NATO summit.
"We have to have Israel to calm down because they went on a mission this morning," he says.
"I've got to get Israel to calm down."
On reports that both Israel and Iran violated the ceasefire, Trump says: "I'm not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn't rein people back.
"I don't like the fact that Israel went out this morning, and I'm going to see if I can stop it.
"As soon as I get away from you, I'm going to see if I can stop it."
"As soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs," he adds.
"The likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel.
"We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f they're doing."

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-trump-us-strikes-israel-tehran-netanyahu-nuclear-fordow-latest-13382979?postid=9782756#liveblog-body

Israel-Iran live: Trump swears live on camera as he rages at Israel and Iran

Donald Trump voices displeasure with Israel, saying both they and Iran violated a ceasefire agreement - adding that the two sides "don't know what the f*** they're doing", and that he needs to get Israel to "calm down".

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-trump-us-strikes-israel-tehran-netanyahu-nuclear-fordow-latest-13382979?postid=9782756#liveblog-body

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:45

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:37

Why not focus on what is being said rather than the ‘bigly’ stuff.

The message to Israel is do not drop another bomb.

Do you think that’s the right message?

Ofcourse I do, what i and others were wondering is why Trump was saying that both sides have violated the ceasefire and why he is more unhappy with Israel. What reason can there be for him saying that?

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 12:46

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:45

Ofcourse I do, what i and others were wondering is why Trump was saying that both sides have violated the ceasefire and why he is more unhappy with Israel. What reason can there be for him saying that?

It makes sense because Israel were on their way to retaliate and they shouldn’t.

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 12:47

Whatsinanamehey · 24/06/2025 12:45

Ofcourse I do, what i and others were wondering is why Trump was saying that both sides have violated the ceasefire and why he is more unhappy with Israel. What reason can there be for him saying that?

I think he expected better of Israel so he's more annoyed with them.