The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

Agree, Iran's foreign secretary was in Europe yesterday (20th June) to meet with the UK, French and other European representatives to discuss negotiations. That was a concession by Iran who have mainly refused to talk to America.

Ironically, UK MP David Lammy said after the meeting that "Iran could avoid a US strike".

All Trump has done is likely guarantee Iran will withdraw from the Nuclear Non proliferation Treaty as early as Monday. Also many other countries will begin developing or obtain nukes.

So far Iran has targeted Israel in it's response and the damage is extensive.

I think it’s a bit of a moot point now whether Iran choose to withdraw from the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty or not.

US has destroyed their nuclear capability.

You do know that Iran has many more than the 3 Nuclear sites targeted? That if the sites had been destroyed we would be seeing an increase in radiation? Thankfully the uranium was moved saving 10s of thousands of lives.

Still waiting but it's looking like bravado. Think back to America having to negotiate with the Houthis for a ceasefire in the Red Sea recently (after losing 2 F18 planes due to having to quickly manoeuvre to avoid incoming rockets and several drones).

Will wait and see, but Trump’s base is currently extremely mad at him and are noting the accounts that are celebrating.

Or has it. Has it just made any future Iranian regime think that what it needs is to get a nuclear capacity as quickly as possible to prevent attacks. Who knows

Yes I do know there were more than 3 but Fordow was the main one.

I think you’re just swallowing Iranian propaganda if you believe the US hasn’t obliterated Fordor.

Looking like bravado .. I don’t think so. I think the bombing was highly successful from the US point of view.

Surprising to wake up to. Hopefully best case scenario is what happens.

I agree I see this on mn a fair bit. It is concerning.

Kier Starmer has called on Iran to "return to the negotiating table" .

He has made a statement to say that "stability in the region is a priority" and described Iran's nuclear programme as "a grave threat to international security".

"Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat", Starmer said.

According to the BBC, there was no UK involvement in the US strikes, although Starmer was informed of them in advance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq53l41gl8jo

@Twiglets1 ”Kier Starmer has called on Iran to "return to the negotiating table"

Starmer and Lammy are clowns.
For all the effect they have internationally, they may as well be posting here on MumsNet.

I agree they are not really adding anything.

I did have some hope that recent negotiations in Geneva with representatives from the UK, France, Germany and Iran might have achieved some progress but No.

I find it really hard to understand the mindset of some of these ME leaders. Why didn't they negotiate before too much damage was done?

Pretty much. I don’t mind though they can stay out. Just say it was a good idea and forget pretending to be any influence.

Fucking maniac.

I think it's time for a realistic view of this.

Firstly the U.S. has an immensely powerful military and so the Iranians if they choose to attack U.S. interests will be hit with immense force and surely that would be a suicidal move for the Iranian regime. However the prospect of the fall of the Osmlamist Iranian regime would be welcomed globally not least by oppresssed Iranians.

There are no good moves for Iran but surrender on Israel/US terms which I do hope they do (not least for my petrol costs). We should welcome the fact Iran can now not produce nuclear weapons that in theory could reach London. We want a safe world.

I really hope we won’t be seeing a surge of terrorist attacks in the US and UK now.

Trump, Netanyahu and all the corrupt ME leaders can rot in hell together.

Crazy thing to think, right?
That all these guys are following a script about how to end the world.
But... if you just look for it, you will find sources and individuals talking about it. Just google it.

The attack on Iran has been named Rising Lion, for example. The lion is a symbol of the Persian Empire. It was in the pre Islamic flag, for example. Google tells me that prophecies also talk about a lion in Israel. But the lion naming, whatever the fuck that means, could be related to one of these texts.

Anyway, I do not think this is of particular importance, bar that it may allow to predict the general lines the crazy loonies will move the conflict into.

It could help to explain why none of this lot seem to care, even a little bit, for human lives or international laws.

It is all very dark, rather shocking and senseless. It is not something I want to read about.

They would probably build alliances and take over Hell, leaving Lucifer unemployed and homeless.....

This point is entirely meaningless. What’s great about that particular 5,000 year old civilisation these days? It’s completely backwards.

So, they were due a follow up meeting to their negotiations on the Sunday, with Trump. But Israel attacked on Friday.

It is really impossible for us to tell, because each of the parties has their version of events. But they were talking. That was happening.
Iran left one of the big nuclear deals during Trump first term and Trump was, in theory, working at getting them back and sign a new deal. Same as Hamas left negotiations during Trump's first time. Trump did back up the settlements and Jerusalem as capital.
These lot of men do not get along. And we all pay the price for it!

Agree with this. Iran does not have the capability to fight back against the US. Any potential allies they had have been backing off for a while now. They would be left a smouldering mass of rubble if they did choose to retaliate.

It’s on the news right now that Iran’s foreign minister is to meet Putin. So they might not be able to fight back themselves, but other countries can…

The US is the biggest threat to world peace, as long as they are led by Trump. All of us will now pay for his egotistical madness.

I do not think they will retaliate against US.
But, as they just did, carry on attacking Israel.
I do not see them surrendering either.
So they are stuck in this.

As I said, their potential allies have been cooling off for a while. If Russia really wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons, they'd just give them one.

That's besides the fact, that Russia is not in a good position to get involved in another war.

Pakistan is another possible player with a lot to balance.
Pakistan does have nuclear weapons.

Just a small correction, Trump was the one who unilaterally tore up/withdrew the USA from the JCPOA early in his first term. Partly due to lobbying from the Israel Lobby and also because of his irrational hatred of anything "Obama". Iran stuck to the terms of the agreement for a while bit until sanctions were levied by America.