The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

The White House says black by speaker 1 and white by speaker 2.
Anyway, this is Israel's war more than US and one of their ministers was reported chasing regime change around 6 days ago.
Plus their talk and actions does say it. It is far too similar to other long and costly conflicts we have been dragged into. Plus there is very little to be found which is actually allowed in the international law we are signed to. There should not be any surprise on UK wanting to stay well out of it.

I see any changes in Iran less likely now than before Iran was attacked, actually.

They are good people.
What a nightmare 💔

I’m fine with no regime change as response. And the clarity on no appetite for ground war or open conflict which was also responded to.

Listening to analysis it sounds like a specific strike that was probably effective.

@EasternStandard if you are refering to the US attack in isolation, what you say makes some sense. Though many experts think US will be pulled in even further.
But if you are refering to the wider Israel- Iran war, then not much. Because Israel and Iran continue their exchanges, as we speak.

Yes I was thinking Iran might just take out more on Israel as they already are this morning.

If limited to that then avoiding other escalation is better although of course awful for the people who are impacted in Iran and Israel.

Yup, pictures are starting to come out of Fordow and thankfully the damage looks minimal with extremely small craters. The Uranium wasn't there so little nuclear risk.

Trump’s actions were an act of war and in violation of International law (giving Iran the option to unilaterally withdraw from the NPT and respond).

It seems that Iran is going to retaliate (and has already) against Israel and reserve its right to respond to America at a later date and time, therefore not falling for the bait to escalate to a wider war now.

Iran is most probably watching the civil war in MAGA where the anti war wing were labelled "panicans" and feel betrayed by Trump. Staying quiet white MAGA destroys itself is currently more beneficial.

Why do you want the damage to the nuclear capability to be minimal?

I believe the poster meant from a radiation perspective

Iran ‘responding’ to America goes one way for Iran.

We cannot answer for previous poster, but my first thoughts when I read about the attacks were: we do not want a second, potentially bigger, Chernobyl.

Which is the gist of them attacking nuclear sites, in full breach of international law and nuclear agreements.

One can only hope that someone in their teams has the mental ability to plan the attacks to not damage critical structures in a way that may lead to external release of material/ radiation.
They do claim, so far, no radiation.

I wondered about radiation but listening to commentators today they have said that’s unlikely.

Not to the Nuclear capability, but to the potential Nuclear fallout. That would bring a humanitarian and ecological disaster not only to Iran but to surrounding countries too. I don’t want the deaths and illnesses that could result to occur.

It would also give Iran the right to hit Israeli and American Nuclear installations as well as end the taboo on the use of nukes meaning other Nuclear capable countries could also strike aka Russia in Ukraine.

Enriched Uranium is only 3 times a radioactive as normal Uranium so actually there is very limited fall out. The Uranium would be possibly spread over a small area over the bomb site so I would be wary of picking up dust and use a Geiger counter due to alpha emission. The Iranians obviously will exaggerate the radiation emissions from uranium radioisotope but at the end of the day this is not a fissile reaction.

So, why are nuclear weapons of such a huge significance and why mere 2% enriched uranium managed to be responsible for Chernobyl? It is in ONLY 5 times more radioactive than a rock you can pick up on a mine. And then a supposed 60% enriched will not have major effects?
It is not adding up in my mind.

No one has said it’s an issue. It’s all being discussed by those with insight

Are you sure ? I thought Iranian oil made up between 10 and 15 % of total Chinese imports., comprising 90% of Iran's output.

Apologies, I got it wrong, I was thinking about the Straits of Hormuz (which Iran can blockade) where:
Nearly 45% of China’s total oil imports pass through the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow maritime chokepoint connecting the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea, which Iran has repeatedly threatened to close in response to Israeli military strikes.

Though interesting that China purchased 90% of Irans Oil output, that's a massive single point of failure!

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/china-faces-oil-supply-risk-if-israel-iran-conflict-escalates/3606285

I remember reading about an agreement between China and Iran from about 2022 and part of that was development of Iranian oil fields by China. I think, somewhere within that was the arrangement whereby the fields were deemed to be Chinese soil and if attacked, China could respond. Whether or not those talks or agreements came to fruition, I don't know.

Chinese / Israel relationships are interesting. As are Israel / Russia. If nothing else, the Israelis are great plate spinners.

Thanks for that info, very interesting. I heard that China is getting a discount on the oil in exchange for capital investment.

Yes International Relations between countries boils down to "it's complicated". I was listening to a discussion yesterday where someone proposed that the reason Iran did not sign a more comprehensive security deal with Russia was because of the 1 million+ Israeli/Russians.

Though the meme about China is "do nothing, still win". Even when the Houthis were blockading Chinese and Russian ships were still allowed through!

Trump has posted in his Truth Social something about regime change, make Iran great again MIGA.
So now, maybe for the next few hours, will be about regime change. Then they may change it to nuclear weapons again. Then maybe religion.
It is in the Guardian live feed, but I did not manage to link it for some reason....

Here is an extract

I can't imagine what it might be like to be married to or work closely with him. He changes his mind like the wind, gaslighting extraordinaire!

Yes International Relations between countries boils down to "it's complicated". I was listening to a discussion yesterday where someone proposed that the reason Iran did not sign a more comprehensive security deal with Russia was because of the 1 million+ Israeli/Russians. @BelleHathor

I recall that after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Israel did condemn it, but was one of the later ones to speak.
Russian is the third most widely spoken language after Hebrew and Arabic.

You can find some lovely snaps of Putin and Netanyahu, they really do very happy together.

Exactly. @BelleHathor head is in the sand with that comment!