The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

Agree I’m ignoring that atm. The media really needs to calm down at times, it doesn’t help.

It might be said partly to justify the increase in defence spending.

Yes unfortunately in an era where advertising revenue is measured by the number of clicks articles get sensationalist headlines is the order of the day

Agree.

The press are awful for keeping us in a perpetual state of fear just so they can get dramatic headlines.

Was the same with Covid.
(I’m not a Covid denier by any means but the press did exaggerate stuff or quoted people who exaggerated stuff which led to our fears sometimes being disproportionate in hindsight).

These are my thoughts too.

I guess he’s being pushed by some defenders contractors behind the door. And if you scare the population it might be easier to get the budget funding.

On that note I was shocked to learn the government leases war planes instead of owning them.

Labour will ramp up rhetoric to justify spend. So it’s that too briefing to media. At least the ‘boots on the ground, coalition of willing’ nonsense has died down. They’ll push the war angle though for other reasons.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/25/israel-iran-war-live-iranian-nuclear-program-could-restart-in-months-pentagon-finds-as-fragile-ceasefire-holds

OMG is there no end to Trumps inability to read the room or his arrogance.

I'm referring to his wholly inappropriate comments about Hiroshima in reference to his bombing of the nuclear sites

And I think that's enough Internet for me today..... 🤯😳🫣

He also claims Israeli agents went into Fordo to check if it had all been destroyed which Israel have said they have no knowledge about. He is starting to sound increasingly erratic.

I think he has a casual relationship with the truth.

Nevertheless I will wait for the official reports to come out rather than trusting anonymous sources at this stage.

Agree about his attitude to the truth.
Regrettably, I would now say the same about all the leaders with any power. MSM is also no longer free.

Its also possible there was some sort of undercover mission by Israeli agents and he just outed them 😬

Who even knows at this point what is the truth and what isn't.

True, though the IDF and Mossad can be just as equally liberal with the truth.

Ironically it is in Israel's interest to say the sites are destroyed to justify American intervention and counter the Americans that still extremely angry.

It's also in Iran's interest to keep quiet and go along with the destruction story to present themselves as no longer a threat.

Wraps up this whole episode quite neatly.

None of us do know that unfortunately.

The focus of everyone now should be encouraging Israel and Palestine to agree a fair and equal two state solution, and put international pressure to not breach it, as if that happens most of the other issues fall away, as THAT is what will protect us all from future war. Not bombing.

If you watch Netanyahu's speech, unfortunately, although the first 5 mins are "positive spin", the rest talks about the future in not hugely peaceful terms. Trump did well to get a ceasefire, but really should be focusing on starting peace negotiations around a two state solution now. So it doesn't all blow up again.

Members of the IDF could equally be liberal with the truth yes … which is why we all need to wait for the official reports to come out with actual evidence rather than just believing the side we want to believe.

From what I’ve read there is no way of knowing the damage done deep underground without full investigations.

Yet almost immediately we got claims the site was both obliterated or barely touched depending on who was speaking.

Just as an aside, in relation to Hiroshima, some historians, including a Japanese-American historian who has reviewed Japanese original sources, now think that Hiroshima was inhuman and caused horrifying consequences, but that it didn't do more damage than the conventional hits on Tokyo and other parts of Japan, and it wasn't the key factor leading to Japan to surrender a month afterwards. That a key factor was the threat of the SU entering that phase of the war.

@Twiglets1 I completely understand that Iran having nuclear weapons isn’t a good idea. I’m not really sure what the US getting involved has really achieved though. Going against what Americans themselves want. Or Israeli actions being against what their allies were asking for. It’s all more divided.

The world is not safer and some people died while large swathes of the population in Israel and Iran were terrified. And Iran will trundle on with their nuclear plan to avoid the regime being ousted.

@MistressoftheDarkSide Trump just thinks he can bully everyone with his strongman act. It makes me want to roll up into a blanket for the next 4 years.

Is there info on the latest action ? commentators have said the base / polls are in support of one off action but not anything that’s ongoing.

@PaxAeterna with luck the US getting involved has set Iran back many years with regard to developing nuclear capabilities and may have even encouraged them not to bother trying to develop them again for the foreseeable future since the US could just destroy again what will have cost Iran millions of pounds to develop.

I think the US & Israel will be demanding Iran agree to regular inspections etc in future as part of the negotiated peace conditions.

I think the world is safer without Iran developing nuclear capability. They will not be allowed to "trundle on with their nuclear plan". They are in a much weaker position after what Trump and Israel have done than they were before, whether their leadership admit it or not.

I agree. I think that description is more apt for earlier.

Now pretty much everyone will be making an effort to stop it.

The CIA director says his agency has intelligence indicating that Iran's nuclear programme was "severely damaged" by the recent US strikes

Hegseth to hold 'interesting and irrefutable' briefing on Iran

US Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth will hold a "major news conference" today about the American bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities, Donald Trump has said.

In a statement on Truth Social, the US president said that Hegseth, together with military representatives, will speak at the Pentagon "in order to fight for the dignity of our great American pilots".

"These patriots were very upset," he wrote on social media.

Trump said the pilots "felt terribly" after a US intel leak - reported by CNN and The New York Times - which said the bombing raids may not have destroyed Iran's capacity to make a nuclear weapon, despite the president's claims.

Trump said the news reports "totally misrepresented the facts". He accused CNN and The New York Times of being "fake news" - a favourite phrase of his when the media finds fault with or questions his presidency.

The conference will take place at 1pm UK time.

news.sky.com/story/iran-trump-us-strikes-israel-tehran-netanyahu-nuclear-fordow-latest-13382979

Good news that both Israel and Iran appear to be honouring the ceasefire between them for a third day.

The director of the CIA has said that they had "new intelligence from an historically reliable and accurate source/method" about the situation at the nuclear sites - what does that mean then?! By "historically reliable and accurate"?

Israel has some 400 nukes is the problem, which is why Iran may go public on wanting to develope nuclear power - and if US threaten strikes then Iran will threaten retaliation.

Iran said (I think) that the 3 sites were working on non weapon projects which could mean submarines, power station etc and they are saying now that expensive scientific equipment has been damaged, and that the US should pay for the damage done.