The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

A lot of media is being really irresponsible about this - there is still some okay reporting but a lot of inaccurate, irresponsible and inflammatory reporting. Such a shame.

I am here and with you, holding for peace!

Lasting peace, lasting solutions

@stepawayfromthedarkside Any news outlets in particular? I stick to BBC and stop myself looking at others.

Who knows? I would think that after the failure of the European and American (before Trump’s withdrawal) signatories to adhere to their part of the JCPOA which stipulated that Iran must reduce it's uranium stockpile (in terms of sanction relief etc). Iran stopped complying too hence the stockpile.

Now though after the unprovoked attack, I imagine that there will be debate in Iran over going the Libya route or North Korean route.

The result is that thanks to this misadventure, no one knows where the 400kg of uranium is and the NPT and IAEA have been severely undermined.

There will be several countries now secretly working towards to proliferation to protect their sovereignty.

I’m sticking to this thread pretty much for updates. So I haven’t looked now but at times the media has exasperated me in terms of stirring.

I used to think the introduction of 24 hour rolling news channels in the early noughties was bad but this reporting on every word uttered and every tweet with no analysis or verification is getting ridiculous.

I think we’ll have to assess with more than a who knows though. Iran getting stronger unabated on that front wouldn’t be good.

Me too!

What do you all make of this? Leaked intelligence shows the sites haven't been destroyed. Sky news reported the leaked intelligence apparently shows bombing the sites has only put Iran back by months, not years how Netanyahu and Trump have claimed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglxwp5x03o

If you don't want to read the full article - this is what I was referring to:

The US struck three nuclear facilities in Iran - Fordo, Natanz and Isfahan - with "bunker buster" bombs capable of penetrating 18m (60ft) of concrete or 61m (200ft) of earth before exploding.
But sources familiar with the Pentagon's intelligence assessment say Iran's centrifuges are largely "intact" and the impact was limited to aboveground structures.
Entrances to two nuclear facilities were sealed off, and some infrastructure was destroyed or damaged, but much of the facilities, which are deep underground, escaped the brunt of the blasts.
The anonymous sources told US media it is estimated the attack only set Iran back "a few months, tops", and that any resumption of its nuclear programme may be based on how long it takes the country to dig out and make repairs.
Sources also confirmed to CBS that some of Iran's enriched uranium stockpile was moved before the strikes, according to the intelligence assessment.

So all those innocent civilians in Iran and Israel killed for what? I am so sick of men in power being so free and easy with other peoples lives, it is sickening.

This whole situation has just confirmed that Iran should absolutely not be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

I think this is what a lot of the criticism was saying. Sure even if you delayed it by a few years so what? You’ve just delayed it by a few years. Iran would be mad not to want to go nuclear now. It’s clearly very protective to have nuclear weapons.

That's the first thought that came to my mind. Was it all worth it? Especially when initial US intelligence claimed that Iran were not trying to build a nuclear weapon. It was only Netanyahu who claimed to have the intelligence they were and felt he needed to start bombing them ASAP.

@Whatsinanamehey the US are discrediting this leaked information and questioning it’s validity. They are still adamant the site is very badly damaged but the full extent of the damage impossible to assess at this current time.

News sources are just reporting what the leaked information is saying, they are not making a judgement about whether it’s true (or untrue).

I will wait until proper investigations of the site have been completed and reported by a credible source ( rather than the information coming from someone hiding behind anonymity) to form a judgement re the true extent of the damage.

Despite negotiation with Iran and the US were still ongoing.

Happy the ceasefire is holding and negotiations ongoing.

Me too.

Of course Iran will still want nuclear weapons.

They can be protective as well as aggressive.

The trouble is the West doesn’t trust Iran to only use them for defensive purposes. Because Iran have been so aggressive in attacking Israel via their proxies like Hamas and have a stated goal of destroying Israel, the US & Israel do not trust them to have nuclear weapons. And neither do Israel allies like the UK, Germany etc.

the US are discrediting this leaked information
It is the Trump administration discrediting it. The information came from the Pentagon
according to an early Pentagon intelligence assessment of the attack.

Who Trump describes as "flat-out wrong" assessment was leaked by "a low-level loser in the intelligence community".
I am unclear why Trump thinks he knows more than the Pentagon but yes lets wait for things to be confirmed. I would imagine they are hiding behind anonymity because Trump would fire them otherwise.

More than just fired. Witkoff called the leak 'treasonous' and whoever leaked it should be held 'accountable'. They could possibly be prosecuted if found out.

Same

The leak is iffy. Spread like wildfire. Best to wait.

You know what I'm finding really bloody annoying? Just as we're all drawing shaky breaths and keeping our fingers crossed for a bit of peace and this ceasefire holding, the UK press is awash with "The UK must prepare for possible future war, possibly on home turf" headlines, not to mention lists of places where we "might" be safer in the event of nuclear war.

FFS. I'm not in favour of keeping one's head in the sand by any means, but the feverish and continual banging of war drums is a bit bloody much. Feeling a bit Lennon this morning - can we not just give "peace" a chance, pretty please?

Agree and these headlines don't help either

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c335406gxdvo

So much for denuclearisation