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Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

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SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:17

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

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PaxAeterna · 16/06/2025 10:35

Dangermoo · 16/06/2025 10:24

👏 👏

Are you not a bit concerned that most countries prefer this to be solved through diplomatic efforts?

I hope both sides stay with in the confines of international law which will minimise the deaths of Israeli and Iranian civilians. Surely we can all agree minimising civilian death is preferable.

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 10:39

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 16/06/2025 10:31

From your liberal anti Israel bias might be fine with a country like Iran getting nukes and supporting attacks against the UK but I'm not.

Stop twisting peoples words, no one wants Iran to have nukes or carry out attacks in the UK fgs, people are disagreeing with the most effective way of ensuring they don't and some do not believe Israel blowing the crap out of Iran will solve it. You can call people liberal but it is pretty much the mainstream view globally, leaders are calling for de-escalation and restraint. It is the same old narrative again disagree with Israel's methods and suddenly you are supportive of the Iranian regime and terrorists. What narrow thinking and logic

Thank you, fully agree. There's no point in arguing as in some people's heads we have all been labelled as some fantasy Western, White, Liberal, Middle Class Anti Israel bigots when many of us are none of those things.

Thankfully in the real world people across the political, racial and class spectrum can see where this situation could end in a terrible disaster.

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 10:40

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 09:37

Shame on you talking about things you know nothing about. Sending missiles into heavily populated civilian areas like Iran are doing is a war crime. I know you look for any reason to vilify Israel but you’re wrong.. WRONG. I spent the night in a shelter with my kids and other peoples kids listening to our city being indiscriminately bombed. You have zero sympathy for us. Zero. Shame on you and all of you who side with Iran and their terrorist proxies.

That's the problem with one country sticking two fingers up to international law isn't it? It makes us all less safe. So many people have been saying this since the beginning of the conflict in Gaza. Israel should have been loudly condemned by Western leaders from the very beginning for attacking civilian infrastructure but they weren't. Now Iran are doing the same thing. Both of them are wrong, both of them are awful but the precedent is there now. Bomb a whole apartment block to oblivion because you think 1 'target' may be there. Western leaders have been clear that they don't think it is a war crime, they have sat and watched and defended Israel doing it. Now what choice do they have but to sit and watch Iran doing it, they've already said its OK to do that.

No to mention the many, many 'mistakes' that the IDF have made that have been shrugged off by everyone. It's made the world less safe and I'm truly am sorry that more people are bearing the brunt of it now. I wish people would have listen to experts at the beginning of this. I wish people would have listened to protesters. They didn't though and everything has gone to shit

EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 10:40

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 08:40

Well Katz has just tweeted this out:
https://x.com/Israel_katz/status/1934482487599575160

It looks like a policy similar to the Dahiya doctrine will be enacted in Iran.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

The Dahiya doctrine, or Dahya doctrine,[1] is an Israeli military strategy involving the large-scale destruction of civilian infrastructure, or domicide, to pressure hostile governments.[2][3][4][5] The doctrine was outlined by former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff Gadi Eizenkot. Israel colonel Gabi Siboni wrote that Israel "should target economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the organization".[6] The logic is to harm the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants, forcing the enemy to sue for peace.[6][7][4]

Hi belle, I can see he issued a correction/update this afternoon.

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!
EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 10:45

the translation tracks

Kindatired · 16/06/2025 10:51

@Jujujudo I am so sorry that this is happening to you and your family and for the other posters living in Israel. I hope you stay safe .

sualipa · 16/06/2025 10:52

Sadly, Ukraine is slipping from global focus as the U.S. makes a hard pivot toward Israel a shift that was always likely, especially after Trump’s return to power. There’s only so much military aid, and only so much political will to go around.

If Israel truly aims for regime collapse in Iran and it seems to believe it can then the world must brace for the consequences: the potential fragmentation of a nation of 77 million, most of whom do not deserve the suffering that may follow, but will endure it all the same.I don't dount the sincerity or joy of diaspora Iranians see the mullahs get a bloody nose but post regime as the MI5 head's analysis starkly laid out in the FT yesterday will be grim.

But make no mistake: Israel has achieved a stunning victory on its own terms strategically, militarily, and perhaps for a generation. The so-called "Axis of Resistance" lies in ruins. But now, in the wake of that success, can Israel muster even an ounce of humanity for the people of Gaza those who remain in existential agony amid the rubble - or is the calcualus we don't care that people hate us as long as they fear us as well.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54565

US Explains Why Defenses for Ukraine Sent to Israel Instead

“It’s a different landscape in defense these days,” said Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth, who claimed that the reason for the redirection was to protect Americans and US assets.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54565

DrPrunesqualer · 16/06/2025 10:53

EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 10:45

the translation tracks

I saw that earlier Ella. The problem as stated by a resident of Tehran they don’t know where these ‘regime targets’ are.Now I appreciate that’s an administration issue for Iran but with no warning of the attack civilians havent had time to prepare. They just don’t know where to run to and like the U.K. there aren’t shelters ( to my knowledge ). They are in a very vulnerable position and I’m sure we would all agree no one wants that. I hope you’re keeping safe Ella

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 11:00

EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 10:40

Hi belle, I can see he issued a correction/update this afternoon.

Thanks Ella I'm so glad to see that. Descalation must be the priority, looking at the damage in both Israel and Iran this morning, I have such a heavy heart.

I do hope that you and your family are as well as you can be today ❤

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 11:05

Or perhaps de-escalation, though it does feel like being stuck in a boiling kettle!

EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 11:12

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 11:00

Thanks Ella I'm so glad to see that. Descalation must be the priority, looking at the damage in both Israel and Iran this morning, I have such a heavy heart.

I do hope that you and your family are as well as you can be today ❤

They are in a very vulnerable position and I’m sure we would all agree no one wants that - @DrPrunesqualer agreed

@BelleHathor thanks for asking. We’re exhausted and obviously highly on edge, but somehow keeping going.

I’m not really debating, I don’t have the wherewithal to be completely coherent tbh. I just wanted to give my perspective that I don’t think Katz’s original post represents the rhetoric here. I’m not hearing any animosity towards the Iranian people, if anything the opposite.

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!
EllaDisenchanted · 16/06/2025 11:14

BelleHathor · 16/06/2025 11:05

Or perhaps de-escalation, though it does feel like being stuck in a boiling kettle!

😄 I’m so tired I didn’t even spot that! My kettle does need descaling come to think of it 😄

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 11:25

Whatsinanamehey · 16/06/2025 09:49

Katz isn't any old Joe. He's in a senior position in the Israeli government. Maybe he should be more responsible with his words If he doesn't mean what he says when there's countless lives at stake. Why would he say it? Just to rile up Khomeini even more? What good could come out of that?

Who know? He certainly doesn’t represent 9million Israelis

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 11:27

PaxAeterna · 16/06/2025 10:13

I definitely don’t think Israel should be wiped off the map. Katz is a senior member in the government and he is escalating the situation with words like this, and the rhetoric from Iran is equally concerning. World leaders are calling for deescalation and a return to diplomacy. That’s not siding with Iran, it’s siding with exhausting all diplomatic methods over violence that will cause the death and destruction.

What would you like to see happen here? What’s the best course of action for Israel to take now?

I am against military action and support diplomacy. I hope that there will be a ceasefire and the hostages will come home and I won’t spend my life terrified that my kids will be targeted in a terror attack. But I don’t think I’m being realistic.

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 11:29

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 10:40

That's the problem with one country sticking two fingers up to international law isn't it? It makes us all less safe. So many people have been saying this since the beginning of the conflict in Gaza. Israel should have been loudly condemned by Western leaders from the very beginning for attacking civilian infrastructure but they weren't. Now Iran are doing the same thing. Both of them are wrong, both of them are awful but the precedent is there now. Bomb a whole apartment block to oblivion because you think 1 'target' may be there. Western leaders have been clear that they don't think it is a war crime, they have sat and watched and defended Israel doing it. Now what choice do they have but to sit and watch Iran doing it, they've already said its OK to do that.

No to mention the many, many 'mistakes' that the IDF have made that have been shrugged off by everyone. It's made the world less safe and I'm truly am sorry that more people are bearing the brunt of it now. I wish people would have listen to experts at the beginning of this. I wish people would have listened to protesters. They didn't though and everything has gone to shit

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Jesus. Way to go! That’s the best bit of gaslighting I’ve seen so far! Well done!!

Whatsinanamehey · 16/06/2025 11:47

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 11:25

Who know? He certainly doesn’t represent 9million Israelis

I didn't say he does. You must agree that the senior the position, the more the responsibility of choosing words carefully lie. It's not the first time he's put his foot in it. The media will rightly pick up on it, it was reported on all the live feeds i saw in the UK this morning.

Whatsinanamehey · 16/06/2025 11:50

From the UK's former ambassador to Iran

The UK's former ambassador to Iran says Israel's military action in recent days constitutes an act of illegal aggression.
Sir Richard Dalton tells Leah Boleto that Iran did not present an imminent nuclear threat to Israel, and there is "no credible evidence" that it was planning an imminent attack either.

Whatsinanamehey · 16/06/2025 11:51

Asked if he believes Iran is really on the brink of nuclear weaponisation, Sir Richard says: "No, and there is no evidence to that effect in the public domain."
He says there has been no change in the basic assessment of the international community that Iran has not taken steps to develop nuclear weapons.
"So we are entitled to disbelieve Netanyahu's claims that there was some recent change in Iranian policy and behaviour. Personally, I don't think that evidence is available."

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:15

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 11:29

Jesus. Way to go! That’s the best bit of gaslighting I’ve seen so far! Well done!!

I didn't expect a well thought out reply from you. I'm just glad that you can see now that most people want the same things here. We want international law to be adhered to, we want civillians to be protected. Laws are there for a reason, to keep us all safer no matter our nationality. I won't be engaging with you again for a variety of reasons. I wish you well wherever it is you might be.

Dangermoo · 16/06/2025 12:28

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:15

I didn't expect a well thought out reply from you. I'm just glad that you can see now that most people want the same things here. We want international law to be adhered to, we want civillians to be protected. Laws are there for a reason, to keep us all safer no matter our nationality. I won't be engaging with you again for a variety of reasons. I wish you well wherever it is you might be.

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You really just typed that to somebody, who is in the thick of it. You know, right there in the cross fire. You lefty liberals have no idea.

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 12:30

Whatsinanamehey · 16/06/2025 11:47

I didn't say he does. You must agree that the senior the position, the more the responsibility of choosing words carefully lie. It's not the first time he's put his foot in it. The media will rightly pick up on it, it was reported on all the live feeds i saw in the UK this morning.

Non of ones at the top have any business running the country. I like when Bennett says although he’s not popular with the government. Katz et al are idiots and say a lot of things they shouldn’t. Trust me that there are few Israelis that agree with anything they say.

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:31

Dangermoo · 16/06/2025 12:28

You really just typed that to somebody, who is in the thick of it. You know, right there in the cross fire. You lefty liberals have no idea.

I wished her well wherever she may be. I'm not sure what else you want from me tbh.

EasternStandard · 16/06/2025 12:31

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:15

I didn't expect a well thought out reply from you. I'm just glad that you can see now that most people want the same things here. We want international law to be adhered to, we want civillians to be protected. Laws are there for a reason, to keep us all safer no matter our nationality. I won't be engaging with you again for a variety of reasons. I wish you well wherever it is you might be.

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They are experiencing it more than others posting. Why so dismissive?

Dangermoo · 16/06/2025 12:32

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:31

I wished her well wherever she may be. I'm not sure what else you want from me tbh.

Sheesh, wherever she may be. Well, she's certainly not in the comfort of a leafy suburb.

Jujujudo · 16/06/2025 12:32

GretaGreen · 16/06/2025 12:15

I didn't expect a well thought out reply from you. I'm just glad that you can see now that most people want the same things here. We want international law to be adhered to, we want civillians to be protected. Laws are there for a reason, to keep us all safer no matter our nationality. I won't be engaging with you again for a variety of reasons. I wish you well wherever it is you might be.

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You come out with some terrible things - what you wrote didn’t deserve a well thought out response. I’m not blind or stupid and I know how it looks from outside. But your attitude is biased and not based on actual fact. Thanks for the kind wishes.

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