Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

[SomeWomanSomewhere]

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

Israel also puts their air defence systems in the middle of cities, for example this one right next to an apartment in the middle of Tel Aviv.

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933613947233436098

And there's the IDF bunker called the Fortress of Zion, a sprawling underground complex also in the middle of Tel Aviv.

https://archive.md/QqNHz

Exactly !

Oh No! Tunnels! They do love to dig their tunnels

So Israel had to put defensive measures on top of buildings to protect the area they are in and have an underground war bunker like every other country has including the UK.

And?

Is this some pathetic attempt to compare with Hamas who fire rockets (offensive) from residential buildings and have built over 300 miles of tunnels under Gaza?

BBC interviewed a woman in Tehran who was quite distraught. She said the IDF told them to evacuate away from military targets in Tehran but they don't even know where they are all located and what could be a target. Countries like Iran and Israel that are highly militarised will have a huge number of military buildings and personnel through out the country.

Isn't it obvious what the poster is saying? There's military infrastructure over and under Israel that in war will be considered a legitimate target.

Well Katz has just tweeted this out:
https://x.com/Israel_katz/status/1934482487599575160

It looks like a policy similar to the Dahiya doctrine will be enacted in Iran.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

The Dahiya doctrine, or Dahya doctrine,[1] is an Israeli military strategy involving the large-scale destruction of civilian infrastructure, or domicide, to pressure hostile governments.[2][3][4][5] The doctrine was outlined by former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff Gadi Eizenkot. Israel colonel Gabi Siboni wrote that Israel "should target economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the organization".[6] The logic is to harm the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants, forcing the enemy to sue for peace.[6][7][4]

@BelleHathor Katz has openly said today that the 'residents of Tehran will pay the price'

It is quite obvious.

The problem is that a lot of people that defended the IDFs actions in Palestine and Lebanon (remember the mentions of Dresden and the familiar "It's war and people die") are now realising that you can't invoke International law (principle of proportionality) when it has been so throughly shredded and ignored. A new precedent has now been set.

Yup, https://x.com/Israel_katz/status/1934482487599575160

Pray for all the civilians in both countries. Iran has invoked article 51 so will respond equally.

Civilian casualties are always painful wherever they are.
You can't help but see the lack of self awareness when you see Israeli politicians lamenting about pulling out a baby from the rubble when they have killed more than twenty thousand children in Gaza, injured over double that amount and created the most amount of child amputees in the world.

Do they not see how the world is looking at this? The Israeli baby deserves better, the Israeli little baby should not have had to be pulled out of rubble. It IS painful. But the hypocrisy of objecting to this whilst defending the deaths of THOUSANDS of other babies and children who are not Israeli is stark.

I’m so worried about where this will end up.

It's open gaslighting, the Israeli government went from we're only targeting military positions in Iran to destroy anything in 48 hours!

It's why apart from the Political and Media class, the Israeli government is getting very little support from ordinary people who don't want to see any civilians harmed.

So less than two months ago five Iranians were arrested in the UK for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London. Now imagine what would have happened if they had access to a nuclear bomb?

Why would anyone in their right mind sympathise with Iran and its efforts to develop a nuclear bomb?

And why would anyone in their right mind criticise Israel for trying to stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb?

Makes you wonder. Anyone but Israel maybe? Feels a bit Israel bad, anyone against them good?

Israel does not have the right to unilaterally preemptively strike Iran a violation of International Law.

Neither does Israel have the right to tell a sovereign country which weapons they can or can not possess especially whilst it possesses undeclared Nuclear weapons not subject to inspection.

On the Iranian nationals arrested, 3 have been charged and the case is currently pending so sub judice and the MET have asked people: "Now that these men have been charged, I would urge people not to speculate about this case, so that the criminal justice process can run its course." people are not discussing it in order to not prejudice the case and allow the courts to do their job.

https://news.sky.com/story/three-iranians-charged-under-national-security-act-after-investigation-by-uk-counter-terror-police-13369333

Shame on you talking about things you know nothing about. Sending missiles into heavily populated civilian areas like Iran are doing is a war crime. I know you look for any reason to vilify Israel but you’re wrong.. WRONG. I spent the night in a shelter with my kids and other peoples kids listening to our city being indiscriminately bombed. You have zero sympathy for us. Zero. Shame on you and all of you who side with Iran and their terrorist proxies.

Katz talks bollocks. Just because he says shit like this doesn’t mean he’ll do it. On the other hand, Iran has consistently stated that it wants to wipe Israel off the map. But maybe you agree with them so….

That's a load of rubbish. Where have i even remotely indicated i want Israel wiped off the map? You can't just go around throwing such accusations around.

Katz isn't any old Joe. He's in a senior position in the Israeli government. Maybe he should be more responsible with his words If he doesn't mean what he says when there's countless lives at stake. Why would he say it? Just to rile up Khomeini even more? What good could come out of that?

I definitely don’t think Israel should be wiped off the map. Katz is a senior member in the government and he is escalating the situation with words like this, and the rhetoric from Iran is equally concerning. World leaders are calling for deescalation and a return to diplomacy. That’s not siding with Iran, it’s siding with exhausting all diplomatic methods over violence that will cause the death and destruction.

What would you like to see happen here? What’s the best course of action for Israel to take now?

Sending missiles into heavily populated civilian areas like Iran are doing is a war crime.
Yes it is and posters don't want Iran doing and don't want Israel doing it.

You have zero sympathy for us.
That is untrue majority of posters have sympathy for ALL innocent civilians caught up in this mess. I can't begin to imagine the fear you must all feel it is horrific. All leaders need to take stock and deescalate the situation you all deserve better

Bombing down heavily populated civilian areas is what the IDF have been doing since the start of the war in Gaza and yes it is a war crime! I'm glad you can see it for what it is.

When posters like myself called it out for what it is we were called hateful, anti-Israel, anti-semitic, useful idiots etc etc. Does it make it ok now that Iran is doing it? Of course not! It's still a war crime now too.

"Israel does not have the right to unilaterally preemptively strike Iran a violation of International Law.

Neither does Israel have the right to tell a sovereign country which weapons they can or can not possess especially whilst it possesses undeclared Nuclear weapons not subject to inspection.

On the Iranian nationals arrested, 3 have been charged and the case is currently pending so sub judice and the MET have asked people: "Now that these men have been charged, I would urge people not to speculate about this case, so that the criminal justice process can run its course." people are not discussing it in order to not prejudice the case and allow the courts to do their job."

So let's get this right- your counter argument is that the five Iranians arrested on charges of planning a terrorist bomb attack in London may or may not be guilty but let's not comment on it so as not to prejudice the case?

Well the fact is that a) five Iranians have been arrested and b) any terrorist attack in London with access to nuclear weapons is going to be a whole lot worse!

To be honest I don't really care what International Law says about Israel bombing the crap out of Iran's nuclear weapons programme if it stops a country that is actively hostile to UK interests, UK military and UK citizens from being subject to a nuclear attack.

From your liberal anti Israel bias might be fine with a country like Iran getting nukes and supporting attacks against the UK but I'm not.

Still it's clear to see what side you are on and it's most definitely not the UK.

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From your liberal anti Israel bias might be fine with a country like Iran getting nukes and supporting attacks against the UK but I'm not.

Stop twisting peoples words, no one wants Iran to have nukes or carry out attacks in the UK fgs, people are disagreeing with the most effective way of ensuring they don't and some do not believe Israel blowing the crap out of Iran will solve it. You can call people liberal but it is pretty much the mainstream view globally, leaders are calling for de-escalation and restraint. It is the same old narrative again disagree with Israel's methods and suddenly you are supportive of the Iranian regime and terrorists. What narrow thinking and logic