Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

[SomeWomanSomewhere]

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

No links to back it up, as it was said by a Journalist in the region on a Twitter space that I was listening to, should I have added an allegedly.

I am not trying to stir up division and that's an offensive suggestion.

I do know that the Iranian security forces are currently arresting a lot of spies.

And on Azerbaijan here is a video showing them acting as a co belligerent in the current conflict

https://x.com/21WIRE/status/1933976370519945326

On India, 8 Indians were sentenced to death in 2023 by Qatar accused of spying for Israel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/qatar-drops-death-sentence-for-8-indians-on-reported-charges-of-spying-for-israel/

Yes, I think we all know by now what kind of disturbing twitter accounts you listen to.
https://x.com/21WIRE/status/1710719773418623452

13 killed in Israel and 406 in Iran since Israel launched it's attack on Friday.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-iran-war-latest-06-15-2025-291df01b03179cd414db21ca33791b39

Interesting article that says Putin is profiting from this both from the increased oil price and the fact that it takes the heat off him for his ruinous war in Ukraine.

Last month, the Trump administration made Putin what seemed like an excellent offer – to cash out his gains and call a halt to his assault on Ukraine with a de facto border along the current line of control and a promise that Kyiv would never join Nato. But Putin refused. Many observers were mystified as to why. Now the picture becomes a little clearer. With every new conflict – especially a major Middle Eastern conflagration – the importance of the Ukraine war to the West fades a little. And the more opportunity Putin has to leverage Russia’s diplomatic weight and help Washington and Beijing solve the world’s problems, the further he moves away from being a warmonger and towards his coveted role as senior international statesman.

There is no way that Putin could have predicted Israel’s full-scale attack on Iran months ago when he began stalling on Trump’s peace deal. But he has always had the devil’s own luck.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-russia-wants-war-between-israel-and-iran/

@sualipa I'm sure i read today that Trump was open to Putin mediating between Israel and Iran. Sounds just like something only Trump would suggest.

I'm starting to think Trump really does admire Putin. What a crazy world we are living in.

The only thing that's crazy is some of these posts.

I don't think you need to think it he loves him wishes he was him. Funniest thing I saw on Xn today was ; x.com/BorisTrump6/status/1934192659855524096

I have to say that parade was just facepalm fodder, if of course we are seeing reality and not carefully curated propaganda, and at this point I'm wary of pretty much everything I see online unless it's a live feed from somewhere.

I've seen a dozen or more memes along the lines of "When you order a military parade from T E ..... M..... U ( trying to get round the automatic spam detector that Mumsnet has regarding that particular platform).

Still need that laughing Emoji back!, though I did have it on in the background and the bits that I saw were extremely amateur. It was his birthday too 😂

Chaos comes after regime change - if it happens in Iran then god help them. Those Iranians cheering now may go silent like this Iraqui.

Yeah, Iraq was a tragedy what happened to the country.
Sadaam Hussein was the most brutal of dictators.

Good article on Chalabi who it is now thought may have been an Iranian asset who tricked the American security services and drew them into the war.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/06/07/the-manipulator

Israel has carried out precision strikes on military and strategic targets; I hardly think that's cause for rewriting the Geneva Conventions. Ukraine is using some of the same methods. It's a bit like the pager explosions. If only other countries made the same effort to avoid civilian casualties.

Funnily enough, I was just trying to remember his name today. Back then, he was everywhere touted as the U.S.'s heir apparent. In the end, he turned out to be a complete con man, though he knew exactly how to say the right things when they were searching for a plausible figurehead for their impromptu regime-building project. This time, however, there's no occupying army just a raw, brutal struggle for power among those with the guns.

That said, Israel might consider this a win. They’ve effectively bought themselves a decade with their adversaries in disarray. But for Iran and for the rest of the world it’s a different story. The resulting regional instability, centered around the world's largest oil producer, is likely to have a major impact on the global economy.

And Trump's off with the fairies and the voices in his head.

Here's an achive vesrion of your link. archive.ph/aW5Ho

If only other countries made the same effort to avoid civilian casualties.

Then they too could have killed and injured over 50000 children in 18 months? 20 children in a single strike in Tehran. Yes Israel sure could teach people a thing or two

Shame they didn’t do the same in Gaza
Lets wait
Civilians in Iran are already being killed.

Suggest a better source

It's noteworthy Russia who signed a mutual defence pact with Iran earlier in the year has not said much about this war so far. The US have also not stuck their oar in militarily. My bet is there are some very high level talks going on between the US and Russia to ultimately de-escalate this exchange. Huge game of chess going on at the moment.

I should imagine Iran uses the same method of calculating civilian casualties as Hamas. Kind of affiliated aren’t they?

Why would there be 20 children in or near a military or government target? The war is in its 3rd day, surely any responsible government would have moved children to safety before today?

Does the Iranian government not hsve to have sirens and bomb shelters as a legal requirement like Israel has had to due to being attacked by Iran’s terror proxies for decades?

The more I think about this the worse it is. Imagine this was Iran killing and injuring 100 Israeli children a day(if you scale it up by population it would actually be over 400 children a day) and people are going around praising them for avoiding civilian casualties, saying if only more countries could be like Iran. Do you not see anything wrong with that?

Where do members of the IDF live? Where do Israeli scientists live? Where do members of the government live? Is bombing people in their beds at home as they and their families sleep not an IDF special, is that not what that poster meant when she spoke about people learning from Israel?

They did do the same in Gaza.

Do you know what has caused much of the destruction in Gaza? Give you a hint - booby traps and tunnels.

How many civilians to combatants have been killed?

Tragically civilians are going to get killed in a war, more so in a densely populated urban environment when they have been afforded absolutely zero protection mechanisms and are used as human shield sacrifices by their own government, and even more so when surrounding non hostile countries refuse to grant them refuge for their safety.

Can you think of any other war that civilians have not been allowed to leave for refuge?

Civilians are also being killed in Israel, difference is they are not being used as human shields and have protection mechanisms from their government. There are no surrounding non hostile countries to grant them refuge though.

He was the equivalent of an Iraqi Del Boy. That the intelligence agencies trusted him is condemnation of their stupidity/arrogance.

I still remember this famous quote:

"The [Iraqi] people want to be free, people will rejoice ... We have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction ... There's no question that Saddam Hussein possesses biological and chemical weapons.''

- Ari Fleisher, March 2003

@BelleHathor posted a map of an Israeli ‘target’ in a residential area.

The destruction of Gaza was caused by the IDF s indiscriminate bombings. We’ve been watching this long enough on the news because at one point the press were there before hundreds were killed by the IDF.
we’ve seen it, it can’t be denied.

Israel attacked Iran with military force and put their people in danger.
Their bombs are not precise, they never have been. The number of civilians killed by the IDF in Gaza is clear evidence of that.

Really? You’ve SEEN the IDF indiscriminately bombing buildings in Gaza.

How do you know it was indiscriminate? Do you have IDF intel?

Which press were there? I thought everyone was saying international press weren’t allowed in.

Israel attacked Iran to defend itself.

Should they have waited until the Houthis fired a nuke on them?

Who is @BelleHathor ? Does she have access to IDF intel?

I assume 3 days into a war, most senior military and governmental figures would have known there was a war on and considering the IDF’s known MO of bombing people in their beds as per a PP, surely anyone suspecting they may be a target would have moved their family to safety?

They do in movies anyway.

Just to pick out one building bombed today by the IDF and full of civilians in terms of this fallacy that they are only attacking strategic targets and that they only wish to wipe out Irans nuclear capability

If that is to be believed
Why have Israel attacked the Ministry of Foreign affairs.
Will we hear tales of the ministry hiding bombs here I wonder. Or is Netanyahu past even bothering to make up excuses any more.

Heres a definition of what a Ministry of Foreign Afairs does in most countries and another similar one for Iran

So attacking any building then!