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Conflict in the Middle East

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

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SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:17

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

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nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:17

Source?

Zofloramummy · 13/06/2025 01:18

Sky News is running it.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:19

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:17

Source?

Various, emerging ... current Haaretz headline: "Israel Launches 'Pre-emptive Strikes' in Iran, Prepares for Retaliatory Rocket and Drone Attack"

haaretz.com for English version

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-12/ty-article-live/gaza-humanitarian-foundation-at-least-five-workers-killed-in-hamas-attack-near-khan-yunis/00000197-61e6-df0f-add7-ffeef3530000

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Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:20

or someones running false flag operations etc, that have been used different eras and wars etc

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:24

Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:20

or someones running false flag operations etc, that have been used different eras and wars etc

Not inconceivable - but also ...

  • Israeli press seems to think it is legit
  • Arab press seems to think it is legit
  • I cannot read Persian, so: no idea on that front

Channel 12 appears to be reporting that this is "coordinated with the US".

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Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:26

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:24

Not inconceivable - but also ...

  • Israeli press seems to think it is legit
  • Arab press seems to think it is legit
  • I cannot read Persian, so: no idea on that front

Channel 12 appears to be reporting that this is "coordinated with the US".

Edited

but that is the point of false flag operations they are designed to make sure it seems like it is x group or x country etc they are hardly going to leave or make errors ect

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:27

Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:26

but that is the point of false flag operations they are designed to make sure it seems like it is x group or x country etc they are hardly going to leave or make errors ect

See above ... Israeli media are claiming it for Israel.

Not sure how "false flag - but the wrongly incriminated party owns it" would work.

Times of Israel currently titling "Israel begins preemptive strike against Iran, defense minister says; sirens wail across Israel"

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Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:29

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:27

See above ... Israeli media are claiming it for Israel.

Not sure how "false flag - but the wrongly incriminated party owns it" would work.

Times of Israel currently titling "Israel begins preemptive strike against Iran, defense minister says; sirens wail across Israel"

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the publicity or another reason etc, sometimes on the face of it these things dont always make sense but after watching the shows spooks, alias, cover affairs, etc and seeing how some of these operations can reasonably play out then it can be a mix

Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:30

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:17

Source?

Why do people comment this? Is Google not free for you to use or do you just think that 99% of news items are bollocks?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/06/2025 01:30

Again?

Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:31

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:17

Source?

Is the guardian an ok source for you?

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!
SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:33

Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:29

the publicity or another reason etc, sometimes on the face of it these things dont always make sense but after watching the shows spooks, alias, cover affairs, etc and seeing how some of these operations can reasonably play out then it can be a mix

So, you are suggesting "actually, the Iranians did it to themselves to self-victimise but the Israeli defense minister is just issuing statements saing it was them?"

I may not quite be following!

In either case: defense minister Katz seems to be owning it!

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Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:33

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:17

Source?

Or is sky news better for you? Either way it’s not made up bollocks and you could have googled this yourself

Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!
Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 01:34

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 01:33

So, you are suggesting "actually, the Iranians did it to themselves to self-victimise but the Israeli defense minister is just issuing statements saing it was them?"

I may not quite be following!

In either case: defense minister Katz seems to be owning it!

Oil prices have surged ~5%, and U.S. markets (e.g., S&P 500 futures) dipped approximately 1% as investors reacted to the escalation

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:41

Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:30

Why do people comment this? Is Google not free for you to use or do you just think that 99% of news items are bollocks?

I googled before asking and at that point got no relevant hits, just lots of speculation that Israel might strike within the next few days.

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:42

Flanger · 13/06/2025 01:33

Or is sky news better for you? Either way it’s not made up bollocks and you could have googled this yourself

I googled before asking and all the hits were discussion that Israel might do this, not that it had.

EllaDisenchanted · 13/06/2025 02:06

It’s legit

Flanger · 13/06/2025 02:07

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2025 01:42

I googled before asking and all the hits were discussion that Israel might do this, not that it had.

Then I apologise. it’s just 99% the first response on this site like ‘I don’t believe you immediately’ it just annoys me but I shouldn’t have been a prick so sorry.

Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 02:08

The strikes coincide with ongoing U.S.–Iran nuclear talks in Oman, and follow just after IAEA censures

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 02:10

And just on the day when there was supposed to be a Knesset vote on dissolving the government ...

... he somehow seems to have manipulated himself out of it again by promising the Ultra-Orthodox draft exemption and appeasing the far right.

Now in manufactured crisis again ...

This is insane!

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Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 02:14

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 02:10

And just on the day when there was supposed to be a Knesset vote on dissolving the government ...

... he somehow seems to have manipulated himself out of it again by promising the Ultra-Orthodox draft exemption and appeasing the far right.

Now in manufactured crisis again ...

This is insane!

its realpolitik's

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 02:20

Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 02:14

its realpolitik's

The general assumption behind the realist theory of international relations, though, is: "states are rational actors that will operate as per their national interest".

Not sure how "literally unhinged" is covered by that theory, to be honest.

Israel cannot win a conventional war against Iran. Because Iran has about 10x the manpower and some of the most defensible territory on the planet.

The US can't fix that for them. They couldn't even take and hold Afghanistan. They realistically haven't actually decisively won any war since WWII.

This is madness. Regardless of ideological stance or personal alignment. This makes zero strategic sense.

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Swirlythingy2025 · 13/06/2025 02:29

SomeWomanSomewhere · 13/06/2025 02:20

The general assumption behind the realist theory of international relations, though, is: "states are rational actors that will operate as per their national interest".

Not sure how "literally unhinged" is covered by that theory, to be honest.

Israel cannot win a conventional war against Iran. Because Iran has about 10x the manpower and some of the most defensible territory on the planet.

The US can't fix that for them. They couldn't even take and hold Afghanistan. They realistically haven't actually decisively won any war since WWII.

This is madness. Regardless of ideological stance or personal alignment. This makes zero strategic sense.

unless your the security services then everything you have analysed is conjecture or assumptions, as if the public would know all the details just because of the main stream media

EsmaCannonball · 13/06/2025 03:20

Well, there's no point attacking a country that is planning to nuke you in hindsight, is there?

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