Inhumane Israeli - US backed GHF aid system.

[Whatsinanamehey]

To continue the discussion on this new aid system which has led to countless Palestinian deaths and injuries and labelled 'inhumane' by the UK government.

Why are you posting X stuff by the GHF
Theyre hardly going to criticise themselves.

You know they are really fucking up when they post shit like this to make people feel better about supporting them.

Insidious propaganda.

Exactly. But well don’t to them for finding a smiling kid.

They were just delighted they weren't shot while queuing.

Wonder how many made it back alive give the numbers killed every day trying to get aid certainly not all of them.

https://www.thejournal.ie/one-year-old-boy-spoke-his-first-words-hours-before-he-was-killed-in-israeli-strike-in-gaza-6759779-Jul2025/

This little boy didn't (I know @Whatsinanamehey posted this yesterday) but seeing the human story of him just starting to talk before he was shot while his mother was queuing for supplements is beyond words .

So anything other that doesn’t fit in with the pro-Palestine narrative is ‘insidious propaganda’.

You don’t believe Hamas are hijacking and stealing aid despite those videos and Gazans themselves saying it?

Are you in Gaza? How do you know what’s actually going on?

For murdering five people...."Barghouti, 44, was found guilty of complicity in the murder of a Greek Orthodox monk in the West Bank in 2001, an Israeli at the Jewish settlement of Givat Zeev in 2002 and three people at a Tel Aviv seafood restaurant, also in 2002. He was found guilty of one count of attempted murder and a count of membership of a terrorist group."
Charming.

No one really knows whats going on because over 200 journalists have been killed by the IDF and the IG won’t allow independent journalists in. Israel are hiding the real horrors. What we all accept is that Twitter stuff from the GHF is propaganda . You might as well post Netanyahus chat room stuff and we’ll all bow down and agree that he’s right on every count. 🤣

Ah when all else fails we will turn it back to Hamas.

Can we have a conversation about the absolute ineptitude of the GHF and their atrocious planning or the let's just shoot policy of the IDF when people are queueing without mentioning Hamas?

What do you think about Israel murdering mothers and their children waiting for nutritional supplements?

Well we know you think Hamas care about Gazans so your opinion is highly questionable anyway.

200 journalists, most of whom had a bit of a side hustle (or the other way round) from what I’ve seen. Why do you think so many ‘journalists’ appeared in such a small area.

Israel is totally correct to not let in reporters. They are fighting against sub human terrorists who hide among civilians and take hostages, this is not a normal war by any stretch.

We ALL accept that Twitter stuff from the GHF is propaganda?

Who are you referring to?

You don’t believe non AI generated videos and pictures?

Can you direct me to a video clearly showing the IDF intentionally firing on civilians or sniping children in the head as this has allegedly happened so many times and all the pro Palestinians believe this

You don’t believe things supported by pictures and videos but do believe things that aren’t?

Just about sums the sense that pro-Palestinians make.

Hamas are one half of the equation with regard to the 2 countries at war so of course we often return to them in discussions, just as we also talk about the IDF a lot. What would you think if we said can we just discuss the war without keep turning the discussion back to the IDF? You would think that’s ridiculous.

Hamas are relevant to most discussions around the war in Gaza and definitely relevant to the GHF which only came into existence because of Hamas stealing aid that was being delivered by other methods.

Wow. Journalists on a side hustle and put themselves in the line of fire. Did they deserve to be murdered too. Anything I post you’ll say is proporganda because I’m afraid you’ve fallen for the murderous lies of Netanyahu and the IDF. Agreeing that journalists shouldn’t be allowed in to Gaza speaks volumes that you don’t want the truth to be known. This attitude is disgusting but certainly allows the pro Israeli propaganda machine to keep on chugging. No point having a discussion with anyone that does not believe in allowing the truth to be seen and told.

Yes but we return to them every single time as a get out clause for anything the IDF does.

Yes an alternative system was needed due to them stealing 15-25% of aid
GHF is not that system.

Did it need to be concentrated to a tiny amount of distribution points ensuring it did not service the population?
Did it need to be in active military zones except for certain hours knowing desperate people would be queuing as aid was limited?
Did they need to shoot 600 people dead and injure many more in the crowds even though not one person seeking aid has shot at the IDF?
Did they need you launch an airstrike on children and their mothers while waiting for supplements?

Lots of shit is on Hamas but some isn't and this time the pp used them as the typical deflection tool.

Because there is no justification so…..but but but but Hamas.

The Israeli army haven't denied killing aid seekers. After the report was published today, they responded with lessons learnt. They haven't at any point denied shooting and killing innocent civilians who are just trying to feed their families.

GHF is very flawed I agree. Lots of things wrong with the way it is being run ( like no distribution sites ever were built in the North). Some of the discussion around them is just repeating stuff though, so if you’re going to repeat the same objections already made, why shouldn’t another person repeat the stuff about why they came into existence (Hamas)

At least it looks like Israel is allowing more aid to come into Gaza in the next few days via various means not just the GHF. That’s something we can all agree is a good thing, surely.

Lessons learnt.??? If the report came out today why are aid seekers still being killed. Did they forget to teach the IDF of these so called lessons

They haven’t denied killing aid seekers accidentally but they have denied targeting civilians. That’s a big difference because in a war zone most people expect that civilians will unfortunately get killed. What they don’t expect and what I would agree is a war crime would be if soldiers were deliberately targeting civilians.

It is a good thing if it is coordinated properly.

I was only repeating the same issues because the pp once again deflected from the issues at hand to return the same refrain we have heard when there is any criticism at all of IDF action.

The ultimate issue with the aid distribution however is the 600 shot dead who were trying to get it.

That is unjustifiable.

Some GHF workers might have gone with good intentions. However, the system in itself is flawed. One of the other major flaws i can see is opening and distributing aid at times, during hours when Palestinians are forbidden to be in the area, which has proven to be lethal.

It's the usual, lessons learnt, we will investigate ourselves etc etc

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/army-says-it-has-learned-lessons-after-repeatedly-opening-fire-on-gazans-en-route-to-aid-centers/

You’re often repeating the same stuff @Martymcfly24

If civilians were specifically targeted while trying to collect aid that would be a war crime and I hope the soldiers would get punished.

If civilians were caught up in bombing or shooting near to aid distribution units because Gaza is a war zone, that’s a bit different.

The longer this war goes on, the more civilians die and the pro Israel side have been urging Hamas to admit defeat and end this war for many months now. They could have got better terms months ago than they will get now & thousands of their civilians would still be alive, including all those babies.

I agree with that though I like to think most of the GHF workers would have gone with good intentions (admittedly, no way of knowing that one way or the other).

Where people have been shot close to the aid distribution centres I think I’m right in saying that has been by IDF soldiers not by the GHF aid workers.

You forget Hamas and Isreal agreed to the last ceasefire. Israel pulled out after stage 1. As a result Natanyahu did Not take back the remaining hostages because it meant the IDF pulling out. It’s a terrible shame the pro Israelis voice wasn’t listened to