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Conflict in the Middle East

Please someone make it stop now

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Bellahadthese · 03/05/2025 18:37

It's heartbreaking
The gaunt, haunted images of children who are being starved to death, the amputees, the orphans, the women who used ivf to have a child that was blown to bits, the 40 newborns left to starve to death in neonatal ward
The hospitals bombed
Charity kitchens and bakeries bombed
Aid workers bombed
Tents bombs
Schools bombed
No universities left
Nothing left
I don't want to hear ooh but Israel has a right to exist
NO state that behaves like this has a right to exist
How can anyone justify Israel's stance?
This didn't start on Oct 7
This isn't about hostages
This is about human rights and why you think it's okay for Palestinians not to have any
I was a kid when Band Aid came about and remember how we raised money for Ethiopia
The fact that this is a man-made famine is abhorrent
I know there are good people in Israel- none in government sadly- but the West has blood on its hands for allowing this slaughter
Be honest you don't think that Palestinians are human do you that's why you don't care
I will never believe the western lie of democracy or human rights or freedom of speech again
It's all a big fat lie

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 21:47

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 06/05/2025 21:42

This is a thread about getting the people who are dropping the bombs to stop dropping the bombs.

But it's been jumped on by "whataboutery" apologists. None of whom can answer the question: should Israel stop bombing non-combatants including children.

This is horror being documented in front of us and the sickening privilege of those sitting back and saying "nothing to be done" is evidence of another low in humanity.

It's not whataboutery to highlight in a thread about making the war stop that it's only Hamas that can stop it.

Vivi0 · 06/05/2025 21:49

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 06/05/2025 21:42

This is a thread about getting the people who are dropping the bombs to stop dropping the bombs.

But it's been jumped on by "whataboutery" apologists. None of whom can answer the question: should Israel stop bombing non-combatants including children.

This is horror being documented in front of us and the sickening privilege of those sitting back and saying "nothing to be done" is evidence of another low in humanity.

But it's been jumped on by "whataboutery" apologists.

I don’t think that’s a fair summary of what happened to this thread considering the OP outed themselves as a rape denier on the first page.

ssd · 06/05/2025 21:50

Ask Hamas. How ridiculous. Ask Hamas why Israel are planning on taking over Gaza. Ask Hamas where millions of displaced people are supposed to go.

Don't ask Israel. Don't criticise or condemn Israel. Don't even mention Israel in your post, its nothing to do with them.

Get real!!!!

Moulook31 · 06/05/2025 21:50

Eyesopenwideawake · 05/05/2025 21:51

Those of you who parrot "but what about 7/10?" on every single thread, do you now think maybe Israeli has made it's point? Do you think that 52,000 dead, hundreds of thousands wounded, displaced and traumatised is enough? Do you think about the children who are slowly starving to death as a direct result of the actions of the Israeli government? And a world that is afraid to stand up to you?

Do you not see the mirror to history and weep?

A lot of people are probably unaware of the history of the creation of Israel. This problem started a long time ago. But for some the answer is always 7/10. Genocide is not an answer to this problem. So many people killed and over so many years. Now it has reached the point where Palestinians will probably no longer exist as a nation. Shame on the Western world for supporting these killings.

Vivi0 · 06/05/2025 21:51

ssd · 06/05/2025 21:50

Ask Hamas. How ridiculous. Ask Hamas why Israel are planning on taking over Gaza. Ask Hamas where millions of displaced people are supposed to go.

Don't ask Israel. Don't criticise or condemn Israel. Don't even mention Israel in your post, its nothing to do with them.

Get real!!!!

Ask Hamas. How ridiculous.

More ridiculous than asking me?

What can I do about any of it?

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 21:54

Vivi0 · 06/05/2025 21:43

You do see the problem that arises though when, as you say “People are asking for it to stop” and as you ask “when will it stop”, but if Hamas aren’t asking for it to stop, and don’t want it to stop, how does it stop?

Ask Hamas. Not randoms on Mumsnet.

You know as well as all of us that hamas have been prepared for a truce but Israel don't want that. It will prevent them from getting everything they want.

Hamas have no power. It is Israel who hold all the cards and who need to stop.

I'm talking to randoms on mumsnet, and thats who im asking! I do not have an open chat with hamas!

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 21:54

Moulook31 · 06/05/2025 21:50

A lot of people are probably unaware of the history of the creation of Israel. This problem started a long time ago. But for some the answer is always 7/10. Genocide is not an answer to this problem. So many people killed and over so many years. Now it has reached the point where Palestinians will probably no longer exist as a nation. Shame on the Western world for supporting these killings.

Of course we have to mention 7/10, that and the promise of going it again caused this war

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 21:56

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 06/05/2025 21:42

This is a thread about getting the people who are dropping the bombs to stop dropping the bombs.

But it's been jumped on by "whataboutery" apologists. None of whom can answer the question: should Israel stop bombing non-combatants including children.

This is horror being documented in front of us and the sickening privilege of those sitting back and saying "nothing to be done" is evidence of another low in humanity.

Of course Israel should stop bombing non combatants. We all know it. It is only the government's who do nothing. It is beyond sickening!

Moulook31 · 06/05/2025 21:58

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 21:54

Of course we have to mention 7/10, that and the promise of going it again caused this war

No. Started a long time ago. Long before 7/10. So many Palestinian refugees in places like Jordan will say “No, it started long before 7/10.

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 22:00

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 21:47

It's not whataboutery to highlight in a thread about making the war stop that it's only Hamas that can stop it.

Hamas have no power.

It is Israel who can, and should, stop this now.

The Israeli government is taking advantage of all of its allies, but us people will never forget what Israel is doing now and what our governments have allowed them to do.

dairydebris · 06/05/2025 22:06

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 22:00

Hamas have no power.

It is Israel who can, and should, stop this now.

The Israeli government is taking advantage of all of its allies, but us people will never forget what Israel is doing now and what our governments have allowed them to do.

There's 2 ways this can end.

Israel ceasefire.

Hamas surrender.

Which would you prefer?

Enough4me · 06/05/2025 22:06

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 21:54

You know as well as all of us that hamas have been prepared for a truce but Israel don't want that. It will prevent them from getting everything they want.

Hamas have no power. It is Israel who hold all the cards and who need to stop.

I'm talking to randoms on mumsnet, and thats who im asking! I do not have an open chat with hamas!

Hamas could release the hostages to show they want peace?

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 06/05/2025 22:08

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Glitchymn1 · 06/05/2025 22:09

We’ve lost our humanity, it’s over. I don’t think there’s any coming back from what is happening.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:12

Moulook31 · 06/05/2025 21:58

No. Started a long time ago. Long before 7/10. So many Palestinian refugees in places like Jordan will say “No, it started long before 7/10.

Those are refugees from previous wars when Arab countries attacked Israel and lost every time, much like now

This war started because of 7/10

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:12

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Who's excusing Hamas?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:13

HelenHen · 06/05/2025 22:00

Hamas have no power.

It is Israel who can, and should, stop this now.

The Israeli government is taking advantage of all of its allies, but us people will never forget what Israel is doing now and what our governments have allowed them to do.

Really stupid of Hamas to commit a massacre on 7/10 and promise to do it again then wasn't it

ssd · 06/05/2025 22:14

Can i ask the whataboutery crowd...

Do you think Israel would stop rhe bombing and give up the intention of taking over Gaza and displacing the entire population if Hamas surrendered??

dairydebris · 06/05/2025 22:16

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/05/2025 12:00

The analogy with Pakistan and India is clear, I think.

Terrorists invade the country next door and kill 25 innocent civilians. Should India retaliate by doing to Pakistan by doing what Israel has done to Gaza?

No, of course not.

India has just launched airstrikes @MrsSkylerWhite. It's on bbc news now if you're interested.

GoldenStrawberry · 06/05/2025 22:17

ssd · 06/05/2025 22:14

Can i ask the whataboutery crowd...

Do you think Israel would stop rhe bombing and give up the intention of taking over Gaza and displacing the entire population if Hamas surrendered??

Yes.

Next question.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:18

ssd · 06/05/2025 22:14

Can i ask the whataboutery crowd...

Do you think Israel would stop rhe bombing and give up the intention of taking over Gaza and displacing the entire population if Hamas surrendered??

Yes

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 06/05/2025 22:18

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:12

Those are refugees from previous wars when Arab countries attacked Israel and lost every time, much like now

This war started because of 7/10

Oh look, an article from 2014 making reference to Israel's actions in Gaza. The genocide didn't bloody well start because of 7.10:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28916761

dairydebris · 06/05/2025 22:20

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:18

Yes

Me too.

I think reluctantly.

ssd · 06/05/2025 22:20

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/05/2025 22:18

Yes

Why?

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