To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

[BotanicalCake]

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

".....so many ethnicities and religions have been persecuted and no other country is using that as an excuse to commit atrocities today. ...."

Seriously?

Goodness gracious. Another one on the cool aid.

Do you know the meaning of the phrase ‘Al Nakba’ which was later shortened to ‘Nakba’, for a start.

Why do you think the Arabs who started a war with Israel in 1948, on the day of the declaration of a Jewish state, call it ‘the great catastrophe’, rather than something like ‘the great defeat’?

Possibly something to do with the Arabs in the region being told to flee and come back afterwards when the Arab armies had successfully annihilated the Jews?

Only it didn’t work out like that which is what ‘the great catastrophe’ refers to. You flee, lose the land in a war you started, you have no right to come back.

There was no Palestinian identity among Arabs in 1948 btw. They referred to themselves as Arabs.

Who said the government is not corrupt and there is no such thing as propaganda?

Why are you changing the subject? Is the HoC register of members' interests (which can be scrutinised to confirm the original point that 40% of UK MPs at that time had received funding from pro-Israel lobby groups) a genuine document or not?

Thank you for explaining to me what is or isn’t racist and offensive towards me. I must be less sensitive and more analytical when someone is openly racist towards me. Be sure to go explain to black people, and Muslim people what they should or shouldn’t find offensive.

Thank you for explaining to me what is or isn’t racist and offensive towards me. I must be less sensitive and more analytical when someone is openly racist towards me. Be sure to go explain to black people, and Muslim people what they should or shouldn’t find offensive.

You seem to find people stating facts that you don't like particularly racist.

I'm still processing the assertion that no other countries are committing atrocities (based on religion/ethnicity/etc)...It's possible to stare too hard at one piece of the jigsaw.

What are you suggesting.?.....that some posters may not be genuine mumsnetters...?.how very dare you. But now you mention it I have noticed a lot of new posters on this board in particular, I thought there was some sort of bat signal.

What on earth are you talking about? I think your algorithm is broken

like this

So just to be clear: You think that the register of MPs' interests - a publicly available document published by parliament and routinely referred to by MPs, parties, journalists etc. when discussing issues of party finance and MPs' accountability - has been falsified specifically to pretend that a large number of MPs are being funded by pro-Israel interests when they aren't?

And, furthermore, that not a single one of those hundreds of MPs has seen fit to object, dispute or even mention the fact that they're being accused (in a government-published, constantly available document) of accepting funding from sources that are false?

So let's run with this, just for the entertainment value. 😀 Any suggestions on the motivation behind this extraordinarily successful conspiracy-in-plain-sight? Is it because the government is actually concocting the misinformation to serve ANTI-Israel forces? Or something else?

Oh stop trying to justify being a racist.

Batshit signal, more like.

ooh just realised @Thegreyhound beat me to it.

At least that's one thing we all agree on.

Is the suggestion that parliament has been unduly influenced by Israeli lobbying? Is there no influence to balance that?

https://www.newarab.com/news/who-are-uks-five-pro-palestinian-independent-mps

The absolute obsession some people on this board have for defending war crimes is astonishing. Every single source apart from Israel is anti Israel or worse so absolutely must not be trusted. Rape, torture, murder, there really is nothing that they won't have a go at defending or denying. It's truly fascinating the hours and hours some people put into trying to make people be quiet about the war crimes of a foreign country 1000s of km from them. Repeating the same things over and over and over like this time maybe people will listen and suddenly agree that preventing people from receiving medical care or raping and torturing people is just war, everybodies doing it.

If you fancy a break from them there are some questions you can ask that they will never answer because the truth doesn't fit with the lines that they repeat so you just ask those questions and they will disappear off for a few hours and hope that you've forgotten what you asked by the time they come back saying 'why don't they just release the hostages and it will all be over'. It really is quite something to watch.

transference?

How exactly do we know what Gazans actually want since Israel block all reporters (and foreign MP’s apparently) from the area?

I also note how freely you use Gaza as another word for Hamas.

What you think that gazans don't communicate with the outside world at all, no phones, no sims, letters, no hamas terrorists dressed up as 'journalists'?!

Well, that was an interesting statement, “no other country” indeed.
And yet people try to excuse October 7th as an “act of resistance against oppression”.

Well I’m constantly fed the line that anything that does make it out is definitely a lie from Hamas, so yes, I’d quite like independents allowed access to first establish who they’re talking to and secondly what their experience is.

if Hamas is already apparently controlling a narrative I fail to see the issue with allowing war correspondents to do their thing.

This @BotanicalCake

Israel has now normalised killing children, it has killed over 17,400 over them.
So I find it so bizarre some keep banging on about Shani Louk and on how she may or may not have been killed.

Actually, I don’t. It’s probably because they can put a face to the name and identify far closer with a white European than thousands of brown people from a different culture with Arab names.

I was interested in this ‘Hasbara’ propaganda machine that Israel apparently had, initially thought it was a media or film company of some sort, so researched it and Hasbara translates from Hebrew as ‘explaining’ which anti-Israeli cheerleaders have twisted for their own agenda.

I’m sure Israel does have a massive PR machine, it probably needs one more than most countries with the always just under the surface hatred of Jewish people, the blood libels, and d the 77 years of falsehoods and truth manipulation of the ‘Palestinian cause’ backed by all the Arab countries surrounding the tiny state of Israel.

Iran and Hamas had 9 years to get their troll army in place if, as suspected Oct 7th was planned from 2014. Very successful it’s been too. Especially Pallywood! The name may offend some but don’t let that take away from the fakery that’s been exposed since 2005. Mr FAFO in particular.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGs4vF7oZp3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Nothing to do wirh skin colour or names. 'Shani louk' hardly sounds like a western name anyway.

It is because her body was paraded about, broken bloodied and spat on by those animals. She represented every single person slaughered but those barbarians.

I'm sorry for any innocent people killed by retaliation but hamas knew exactly what they were starting. Yes we know the history of palestine. No, slaughtering hundreds of innocent people at a festival wasnt every going to achieve anything other than what we are witnessing.