Last functioning hospital in Northern Gaza is stormed by the IDF

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If it wasn't already clear that Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing in the north of Gaza, then this is the final straw.

IDF soldiers have posted countless videos mocking at the destruction they have caused in the north. The north of Gaza has suffered massacre after massacre at the hands of Israel and after repeatedly targeting the Kamal Adwan hospital, they have now forced them to evacuate after bombing and killing several medics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

For God's sake. There are no hospitals operating in Northern Gaza. There's nothing there now. This scraping of the barrel to come up with ways to excuse what Israel has done is deplorable.

Have the EU and the UN released statements for each and everyone of the 150 journalists killed by Israel? Has there been UN security council meetings for each and everyone of the 150 journalists killed by Israel? If there has you might have a point, if there hasn't been what is your point?

Thanks for sharing this information about a young woman being murdered in this horrific way. Kind of confused by the narrative that follows. From reading more on it she was a student of journalism and not actively working as a journalist in a conflict zone so I'm not sure why there'd be an expectation for the UN, EU, BBC, and so on to respond to it?

They ordered the evacuation of every single patient including babies in the ICU, does this not horrify you?
This was after targeting and striking many hospitals that still had patients inside.
The IDF then proceeded to invade and destroy the hospitals so they were no longer able to operate.
There is not a single functioning hospital left in the north of Gaza after Israel has attacked every single one.
I stand with what the UN say in regards to the IDF's attacks on Gaza's health care. It amounts to war crimes and extermination.

@Shirk from all the hospitals they bombed and invaded they couldn't even give a solitary image of even one of the Hamas HQ's there? Considering attacking hospitals is a war crime unless they have been compromised, surely they would after one year of attacks, show one of them?
Unless ofcourse, there just wasn't any.

Early days in the assault on Gaza they made up "evidence" with regard to their attacks on hospitals. The actress pretending to be a nurse, the AI video of the underground complex at Shifa and the calendar blunder are memorable examples.

Since then I haven't seen any actual evidence, though mercifully they have stopped the invented "evidence" (which by the way should be extremely alarming to anyone in their right mind - what normal country/military would do this?)

So I have to conclude they just want to destroy all the hospitals.

@BadgerInDungarees think my point is quite self explanatory. I didn't realise her death isn't noteworthy when it's shifted 82 miles.

@stomachamelon I really don't think you have thought through what you posted. Fairness would be every death of a journalist treated the same way. All of the things that you list don't happen for the majority of journalists that have been killed. There haven't been 150 UN security council meetings about each and every journalist Israel have killed. There hasn't been statements from the EU every time Isreal kills a journalist. Yet you are saying that order for it to be fair every time the PA security forces kills a journalist there should be UN meetings and EU statements?

Unfortunately, there has been so much killing that each and every death doesn't get the condemnation it deserves. Obviously, her death is a tragedy as is the death of every journalist who has been killed in this conflict but your post doesn't show what you think it does. How much news coverage do you think these poor people get in our mainstream news. About the same as this poor woman. The last journalists in the news I remember is just before Christmas when Israel killed 5 jounrlaists in one go, I don't think they even got their sex nevermind names in the short article I read. I have often seen on instagram that a journlist has been killed in Gaza and there isn't a bbc news story about it, there is nothing. You aren't looking for this killing to be treated the same at all, if this killing was treated the same way as the 150 other journalists killed in this conflict you probably wouldn't even know that she was dead.

It doesn't matter whether any of us are horrified. All that matters is being able to use your faculties to come to your own balanced judgement of what it right. It's easy to be horrified, but it doesn't answer the question of what happens if terrorists and weapons are hidden inside the hospital and they are responsible for killing civilians. These are actual questions the Israelis have to confront. They are not theoretical questions.

Obviously you are saying that all this is a pretext, there are no terrorists in the hospitals and it is all cynically fabricated to enable the Israelis to destroy everything. I think that is less plausible than that they genuinely believe the hospitals constitute a threat. We can disagree on this point of course.

@BadgerInDungarees I was thinking more in comparison to how the death of Shireen Abu Akleh was reported.

There is more information coming out though and I suppose it's a story in progress. Perhaps I am not explaining myself very well. It wasn't meant as a dig but a comparison.

Shireen was American. Remember the aid convoy that Israel accidently blew up and killed foreign aid workers? Remember the headlines they got?

That's about Western lives being valued more than Palestinian lives. Look at most of the high profile cases over the years like Rachel Corry or Thomas Hurndall vs the 100s of Palestinians that were killed in 2023 in the West Bank prior to Oct 7 for example, most people didn't even know that that was happening.

@BadgerInDungarees once again I am not saying it's right. All human life should have equal value.

I'm also not sure what point you were trying to make. It's still not clear.

The murder of this young woman is horrific. There's no doubt about that.

But Shireen Abu Akleh was a renowned journalist with over 20 years experience in prominent media roles. Of course her death got a lot of coverage.

The 150 or so media workers and journalists killed in Gaza got little or none, in almost all cases.

If this conflict should have taught us anything it's that clearly all human life is not equal in the eyes of many people.

They announced their intention, called the General’s Plan.
They encircle northern Gaza, force everyone out by using lethal force. Demolish as many buildings as possible, especially civilian infrastructure and hospitals. Everything needed to survive. Then declare anyone who didn’t escape a combatant and the entire area a kill zone.

They then gradually expand this zone south.

They have enacted this plan and now are expanding south towards the Indonesian hospital.

The General’s plan is illegal under modern day international laws for war, human rights and humanitarian law. Israel was informed of this when they first started announcing it by numerous legal experts in war & conflicts, as well as the UN.

No it’s not at all plausible. This tunnel was built by Israel in the 1980s so it is not a Hamas tunnel. They went straight there while destroying Al Shifa because IDF assumed Hamas would have taken over these tunnels. However they found no evidence anyone had even been in there, but tried to say that Hamas had been doing command and control, but then while evacuating cleaned all trace of them being there but simultaneously managed to leave years worth of dust intact.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/the-case-of-al-shifa-hospital-hasbara-exposed/

“The Post mapped the path of the tunnel by geolocating the excavation sites within al-Shifa and analyzing the videos frame-by-frame to determine the network’s directionality and length. The Post then superimposed the tunnel routes on the original map released by the IDF on Oct. 27 that it said showed the full extent of Hamas’s command and control infrastructure.
None of the five buildings highlighted by the IDF appear to connect to the tunnels, and no evidence has been produced showing that the tunnels could be accessed from inside the hospital wards, as Hagari had claimed.
In one section beneath the surgery building, two small bathrooms, a sink and two empty rooms are joined to the tunnel. Hagari said the rooms and the tunnel drew their electricity, water and air conditioning from al-Shifa. One room, Hagari said, was an “operational room,” he said, citing the electric wiring as evidence.
The bare, white-tiled rooms showed no immediate evidence of use — for command and control or otherwise. There are no signs of recent habitation, including litter, food containers, clothing or other personal items.”

It’s odd this U.K. doctor who claims to have worked there for 3 months, 3 years prior to the interview- so in 2020- is speaking anonymously and it’s only been published by Times of Israel.

None of the other international doctors speaking out and signing letters are doing so anonymously.

The UN first expressed concern in Feb 2024 after Israel had killed 122 journalists in 5 months.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/gaza-un-experts-condemn-killing-and-silencing-journalists

How would it be fair for the UN to express concern about the PA killing journalists when they have only killed 1 in 16 months?

Israel was raging at the UN for expressing concern when they’d killed 100+ journalists and said that wasn’t fair. Now they are saying if only 1 journalist is killed in a war zone, concern should be expressed.

So the UN should have expressed concern when the IDF shot and killed 3 journalists on Oct 7th, 2023?

Journalists killed by IDF since Oct 7th 2023= 202
Journalists killed by PA since Oct 7th 2023= 1

Anyone with a brain can see why the first is cause for concern, and the second hasn’t reached the threshold.

I imagine if you speak out about a terrorist organisation then you are at risk. Hence, anon is preferable.

There are terrorists and they are hiding somewhere. They may use tunnel network and they may use hospitals. We can only guess here.

An extract from the story of the doctors claims.

"Shortly after the October 7 onslaught in which 1,200 Israelis were brutally slaughtered by Hamas terrorists and around 240 were kidnapped into Gaza, the IDF revealed that Hamas has been using Gaza’s hospitals for military operations, a claim confirmed by the US administration."

@Lalaloveya

A laughing emoji is your reply. Well that says more about you than you realise. I feel sorry for you.

"We can only guess".

Or we can look at the evidence. All those hospitals destroyed and yet there is none. Doesn't take a detective to figure it out.

And if the US say something to back up the IDF's baseless claim it must be true eh. I found that funny. Sorry if that offended you.

Edited to add that you needn't feel sorry for me. At this stage I feel sorry for those who can't accept the blindingly obvious truth.

Free Dr Hussam from the occupation. After initially denying that the IDF have detained him, they have now confirmed it without disclosing where he is being held.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-confirms-it-is-holding-gaza-hospital-director-dr-hussam-abu-safiya-13283251

That is outrageous. They are such liars. God help him.

This is very sad news . I don’t know whether he is guilty or innocent but if he is not kept safe and sound during his detention and doesn’t receive timely and transparent justice then it will be a shocking indictment on Israel.
I will pray that justice is done .

What makes you think he might be in Hamas?

Nothing at all! Did I say I thought that …