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Last functioning hospital in Northern Gaza is stormed by the IDF

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Whatsinanamehey · 27/12/2024 10:43

If it wasn't already clear that Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing in the north of Gaza, then this is the final straw.

IDF soldiers have posted countless videos mocking at the destruction they have caused in the north. The north of Gaza has suffered massacre after massacre at the hands of Israel and after repeatedly targeting the Kamal Adwan hospital, they have now forced them to evacuate after bombing and killing several medics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

The photo is washed in grey from dust in the air. One man in a cap and face mask bends down, looking into a pile of rubble

Israel orders evacuation of Kamal Adwan hospital in Gaza, medics say - BBC News

The hospital's nursing director says ICU patients in comas and on ventilation machines are being forced out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

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GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 02:16

BadgerInDungarees · 01/01/2025 23:17

Yes and at least one of those children couldn't travel with their mum because Israel wouldn't let her out. Do you think you can just rock up to the border and leave? Everyone of those children had to get Israels permission and everyone of their escorts had to get Israels permission. It's been this way for years under Israels occupation.

Who apart from you is saying that it is a one way street? Again all of these made up rules. If we want to talk about something Israel has done wrong we have to talk about everything else everyone else has done wrong or be accused of being antisemtic? There is no misinformation in my posts. I don't spread misinformation. Just because you don't like what people are saying it doesn't make it propaganda or misinformation.

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The medical evacuees and their family members travelled to the UEA via the Ramon Airport, the 2nd busiest airport in Israel.

So they did have to enter Israel so you did misinform in your post that they didn’t have to enter Israel.

This was the 23rd flight as reported.

There seems to be family members accompanying the other children, 72 for 55 children. Do you think this mother was singled out for no particular reason but other family members weren’t?

OchaLove · 02/01/2025 07:02

GymBuffMum · 31/12/2024 22:51

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/director-of-one-of-last-functioning-hospitals-in-northern-gaza-detained-in-israeli-military-raid-13280897

Seems like there is were rather a lot of Hamas operatives hiding in the hospital again which is not within the bounds of credibility with their track record. Hiding like the rats they are among civilians in one of their last strongholds.

Why is the disgust not with them and lives they’ve endangered?

Patients and staff WERE evacuated.

It’s also not within the bounds of credibility that terrorists are embedded all over Gaza. It’s not like this is a new strategy and it’s quite a small, heavily populated area. Why haven’t they all given themselves up?

I wonder would anyone believe what the military of an advanced and the only democratic country in the region said during a war, as opposed to a barbaric ideologist terrorist government that deliberately started that war to get as many of its own civilians killed as possible for propaganda purposes, if that country was not Israel? Really odd and I can’t understand it tbh.

Thankfully there are some of us who don’t blindly believe everything we see on SM because it suits our agenda.

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In your judgement, let's say if there are terrorists in a London hospital, or in a New York hospital or in a Sydney hospital (or in a ....... hospital - fill the blank with a Western city hospital name) is it okay to bomb the hospital full of civilians and medical personnel?

Or is it only fair game when it is not a Western or an Israeli hospital?

stomachamelon · 02/01/2025 10:02

@BadgerInDungarees so I am as balanced as you are? At least you acknowledged that.

Have you been to Israel? Know anyone that lives there?

OpheliaWasntMad · 02/01/2025 10:48

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 00:51

Oh look, but it hasn’t been reported than any Gazan has taken up the offer.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/20/netanyahu-offers-5m-in-exchange-for-any-gaza-hostage/

What other approach was there - allow Hamas free access to Israel and Egypt (fair is fair surely?) by tearing down the border walls of their ‘open air prison’, or even creating a single state where Hamas was free to murder Jewish people as much as they want, releasing 000’s of Palestinian criminals (many convicted of terrorism) in return for the hostages (many of whom will be already dead or executed before release), and letting Hamas remain in power emboldened by their win to do a lot worse than Oct 7th. That seems to be what a lot of people want.

If you don’t think Hamas should remain in power, how exactly were Israel supposed to get rid of them? Maybe the UN could give it a go?

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I appreciate that you are giving us an Israeli perspective. We need to hear that even if we don’t agree.
Do you agree with Netanyahu’s approach - ie do you think it has been successful?
and do you think it is acceptable in humanitarian terms?

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 11:36

OchaLove · 02/01/2025 07:02

In your judgement, let's say if there are terrorists in a London hospital, or in a New York hospital or in a Sydney hospital (or in a ....... hospital - fill the blank with a Western city hospital name) is it okay to bomb the hospital full of civilians and medical personnel?

Or is it only fair game when it is not a Western or an Israeli hospital?

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Wouldn’t happen though would it so your point is moot. That Western country would not be at war with itself and a hospital would therefore not be a legitimate military target.

I don’t think any hospital in Gaza was bombed when if was full of civilians and medical personnel was it?

OpheliaWasntMad · 02/01/2025 11:55

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 11:36

Wouldn’t happen though would it so your point is moot. That Western country would not be at war with itself and a hospital would therefore not be a legitimate military target.

I don’t think any hospital in Gaza was bombed when if was full of civilians and medical personnel was it?

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No maybe not bombed. But a civilian population left without any functioning hospitals ?

Lalaloveya · 02/01/2025 12:26

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 11:36

Wouldn’t happen though would it so your point is moot. That Western country would not be at war with itself and a hospital would therefore not be a legitimate military target.

I don’t think any hospital in Gaza was bombed when if was full of civilians and medical personnel was it?

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Hospitals have been attacked, set on fire, patients and staff rounded up and taken away (some killed), snipers shooting people trying to leave hospitals during sieges, oxygen and power generators targeted, premature babies left to die.

It's not great, is it? I mean, it's certainly not normal behaviour in a war.

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 12:58

OpheliaWasntMad · 02/01/2025 10:48

I appreciate that you are giving us an Israeli perspective. We need to hear that even if we don’t agree.
Do you agree with Netanyahu’s approach - ie do you think it has been successful?
and do you think it is acceptable in humanitarian terms?

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I am not Israeli so cannot give their perspective, nor would I would be presumptuous enough to speak for a population as a whole if I were.

I am merely someone with no inherent bias either way other than for the children on both sides who have been forced into this conflict and are entitled to live in peace and safety.

I am married to a Muslim Arab and I myself am a Christian as a background.

I agree with Netanyahu’s approach to dismantle Hamas and not allow it to take and ruin the lives of countless more generations of Palestinian and Jewish people yes.

is that controversial?

stomachamelon · 02/01/2025 13:04

@Lalaloveya a. You don't know that's the IDF most of those accusations could be levelled at Hamas and B. Most information out of Gaza is directed by the Hamas run health authority.

MissyB1 · 02/01/2025 13:05

GymBuffMum · 02/01/2025 12:58

I am not Israeli so cannot give their perspective, nor would I would be presumptuous enough to speak for a population as a whole if I were.

I am merely someone with no inherent bias either way other than for the children on both sides who have been forced into this conflict and are entitled to live in peace and safety.

I am married to a Muslim Arab and I myself am a Christian as a background.

I agree with Netanyahu’s approach to dismantle Hamas and not allow it to take and ruin the lives of countless more generations of Palestinian and Jewish people yes.

is that controversial?

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Dismantling Hamas isn’t controversial, agreeing with Netanyahu’s approach most definitely is.

Dulra · 02/01/2025 13:18

stomachamelon · 02/01/2025 13:04

@Lalaloveya a. You don't know that's the IDF most of those accusations could be levelled at Hamas and B. Most information out of Gaza is directed by the Hamas run health authority.

a. You don't know that's the IDF most of those accusations could be levelled at Hamas
Yes, but one is an illegal terrorist organision the other a legitimate state army it's a sad day if we are justifying the actions of the IDF in relation to the conduct of Hamas.

B. Most information out of Gaza is directed by the Hamas run health authority.
And Isreali government. It is of great frustration that there are no independent observers allowed access.

Simonjt · 02/01/2025 13:20

OchaLove · 02/01/2025 07:02

In your judgement, let's say if there are terrorists in a London hospital, or in a New York hospital or in a Sydney hospital (or in a ....... hospital - fill the blank with a Western city hospital name) is it okay to bomb the hospital full of civilians and medical personnel?

Or is it only fair game when it is not a Western or an Israeli hospital?

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American manages not to blow up schools when a terrorist is inside murdering children.

Whatsinanamehey · 02/01/2025 13:22

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Whatsinanamehey · 02/01/2025 13:23

Supporting Netanyahu is supporting crimes against humanity.

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Lalaloveya · 02/01/2025 13:35

stomachamelon · 02/01/2025 13:04

@Lalaloveya a. You don't know that's the IDF most of those accusations could be levelled at Hamas and B. Most information out of Gaza is directed by the Hamas run health authority.

Are you saying those things didn't happen? The eye witnesses are all lying, is it?

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Whatsinanamehey · 02/01/2025 13:36

When you support Netanyahu then you support this. The bombing of civilians in tents that Israel carries out almost daily. Sick sick sick!

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Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 13:47

If you were a soldiers mum would you want him/her (in uniform) to try to tackle Hamas fighters (not in uniform) in a hospital full of civilians. How do you think it could be done?

Simonjt · 02/01/2025 13:48

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 13:47

If you were a soldiers mum would you want him/her (in uniform) to try to tackle Hamas fighters (not in uniform) in a hospital full of civilians. How do you think it could be done?

If you were a mum who had just given birth would you be happy to either be blown up, or paraded outside in your underwear by Israeli soldiers while you held your freezing newborn baby?

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 13:53

My question first - but I wouldn't be getting pregnant in the middle of a shitshow

Simonjt · 02/01/2025 13:55

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 13:53

My question first - but I wouldn't be getting pregnant in the middle of a shitshow

Ah yes, because rape never happens during war, and the IDF haven’t raped anyone.

If anyone of my children choose to be soldiers then they are choosing to so the job, if they don’t want to be in a room with doctors or nurses due to fear, then the forces aren’t an appropriate career for them.

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 14:00

National military service is mandatory in Israel - Hamas choose to be terrorists

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Whatsinanamehey · 02/01/2025 14:03

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 14:00

National military service is mandatory in Israel - Hamas choose to be terrorists

Israel chooses to occupy, steal land and oppress Palestinians for decades.

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Lalaloveya · 02/01/2025 14:06

Notaflippinclue · 02/01/2025 13:53

My question first - but I wouldn't be getting pregnant in the middle of a shitshow

So it's her fault.

Your empathy for women caught in a warzone/genocide is really touching.

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