Hamas don’t want peace

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A two day ceasefire was offered to them in return for four hostages but they declined. Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, said Hamas “once again refused to release even a limited number of hostages to secure a ceasefire and relief for the people of Gaza”.
Isreal has now offered a million dollars for each hostage and safe passage out of Gaza for their captors. Hamas have yet to respond.

I don't agree there is no one with the power to force a ceasefire. The rest of the world actually could if they wanted to. America could probably do it entirely by themselves, but there is no political will to stop it is there?

Yes it is separate , but in reality most people don’t think like that, they equate the two things. When you are talking about Joe Publics response it’s a pointless differentiation to make. This is what Hamas and their flag waving supporters are banking on.

There's so much nonsense here I literally don't know where to begin....

@Fairy0708 Jews migrated to many different areas in Europe but were expelled. Palestinians accepted them. Your points are abit useless, what are you saying? They were killed in Germany by Nazis so they can establish a state by killing Palestinians? Let me know ‘darling’.

Going back to your original point that Israel hasn't had peace.. everyone deserves peace whether you're Israeli or Palestinian but let's not forget that Israel (with the support of the West) has caused death and destruction for over 70 years to the Palestinians. Maybe if Israel allows Palestinians to have a right to their own water, aid and food, Israel will see peace too?

@Comedycook you could start by answering the questions I asked just like I answered your question?

Nope, because the Gaza strip towards the sea is a huge aquifer.
Israel needs that water for their settlers to grow crops.
The Palestinians need that water for the same reasons.
The land will go to the party with the bigger, better and more powerful friends.

I found your post insulting and ill informed....

I'm a zionist and I don't want to kill or eradicate anyone thanks very much.

It's the current trend to twist the meaning to demonise us

I don't think the ceasefire offer described is of any benefit to Hamas. A two day ceasefire for four hostages doesn't make sense, if they keep doing that they will soon be left with no hostages at all. (Obviously, that's the idea in offering it, I just mean from the terrorists' point of view, it makes no sense accepting it.)

Do they want peace? I think it depends on your point of view. They probably genuinely do want peace, but their view of what that form of peace looks like differs wildly from the view normal, non-terrorist people have. Hamas' concept of peace is a fundamentalist-Islam middle east, world even, with everyone abiding by a strict interpretation of the Quran, and no Jews or other "infidels" in the world.

Israel clearly also do not want peace. In all fairness who would want peace from a terrorist state who is occupying their land. It’s not even peace they are offering. Just reverting to the occupation before the genocide that they are currently committing where they still murdered, controlled and oppressed palestians but in smaller numbers. No other country would accept this.

@Comedycook You’ve not given a meaning or definition for me to twist? You asked me, I gave you my definition. I asked you and you never gave me any definition or meaning. If I’m so ill informed then inform me?

I was thinking the same. A 2 day ceasefire is hardly peace is it.

Each side is hoping the other side will pack up and leave if they can make life sufficiently uncomfortable for them. Neither will. The only possible solution states living side by side with right of return for Palestinians. The question is how long it will take them to realise that and start working towards it.p, to put aside their desire for victory in favour of peace.

It’s not worth it to them, the hostages are worth more to Hamas, besides which obvs the Israelis can’t be trusted and will continue on with their ethnic cleansing.
That wasn’t a genuine ‘peace’ offer at all.

I didn’t think there was anyone gullible or ignorant enough to genuinely believe Israel has any interest in peace. They want to continue their genocide until there’s no Palestinians left. Ridiculous to see people defending them after over a year of carnage. You’ll be the ones people look back at in disgust when this is in history books. Don’t bother to reply with your faux outrage, I’m not interested in it.

What the fuck would be achieved in 2 days? With millions of Gazan’s homeless and starving - Israel are genocidal murders.
It’s going to take more than, we’ll stop shelling you for 2 days, pinky swear, to end the conflict.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/gaza-least-3100-children-aged-under-five-killed-others-risk-famine-looms

I found this article utterly devastating.

Learn capitalisation.

‘Peace’ in this case being Israel taking over and ethnically cleansing your land.

Zionism means I believe in the right of Jewish self determination and the right of Israel to exist.

You added the by any means necessary nonsense....

Not to mention the very tiresome rhetoric of some Jews think differently to you....and so what?

Patronising

You not coming back to tell us more about how to be a decent Jew?

Have you seen many posts “in support of Hamas”? I certainly haven’t.

i certainly haven’t met ot spoken with anyone who supports Hamas. But I know a lot of people who are horrified by what Israel is doing and who know it is wrong. That doesn’t make them anti-semitic Hamas supporters!

No, a genuine reaction. if only there were more zionists who believed they can allow Palestinians to remain in Palestine too.