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Conflict in the Middle East

Hamas don’t want peace

588 replies

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 10:19

A two day ceasefire was offered to them in return for four hostages but they declined. Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, said Hamas “once again refused to release even a limited number of hostages to secure a ceasefire and relief for the people of Gaza”.
Isreal has now offered a million dollars for each hostage and safe passage out of Gaza for their captors. Hamas have yet to respond.

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Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:39

A two day ceasefire? What an insult to the Palestinian people

Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:40

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/11/2024 12:11

Isreal needs to offer land and homes back and stop bombing if they want peace. Why would Palestinians want to make peace with people that aren’t offering to end their occupation and suffering? All the millions in the world won’t give them their lives back and the lives of the hostages are no more important than the lives of Palestinians.

Isreal is only making this offer to pacify their own citizens, not because they believe in peace for Palestine.

This

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:44

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/11/2024 12:11

Isreal needs to offer land and homes back and stop bombing if they want peace. Why would Palestinians want to make peace with people that aren’t offering to end their occupation and suffering? All the millions in the world won’t give them their lives back and the lives of the hostages are no more important than the lives of Palestinians.

Isreal is only making this offer to pacify their own citizens, not because they believe in peace for Palestine.

This exactly and as if Netanyahu the war monger wants peace. I think YABU OP to fixate on a two day ceasefire whilst a genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza is taking place which is quite a big hindrance to peace.

Lucyshoebeck · 06/11/2024 13:46

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DancefloorAcrobatics · 06/11/2024 13:49

A ceasefire isn't a peace offer.... I think there is a lot more to this current conflict than just fighting Hamas. Neither side will stop, because they can't.

Israel has fought wars approximately every 15 years since it was founded ...

1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006 and now!

www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:50

What sick twisted people even support Israel in their genocide? Do you have no hearts? Do you not give a shit about how many Palestinian children Israel murder every single day?

Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:50

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

Are yoy saying Israel shouldn't have peace?

Of course Israel should have peace, so should Gaza, but when you deliberately steal someone else's land you're not going to have peace, Israel should know this by now

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/11/2024 13:51

Neither side want peace.

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:57

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:50

What sick twisted people even support Israel in their genocide? Do you have no hearts? Do you not give a shit about how many Palestinian children Israel murder every single day?

Such hyperbole

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:59

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 10:22

Of course they don't. They don't care about the Palestinian people.

No one is happier to see ordinary Palestinians suffer than Hamas....great pr for them...sadly.

This is Israeli propaganda constantly used by those who attempt to justify Israel's barbaric treatment of the Palestinians. Looky here! Hamas don't care so stop blaming us for the massacres we carry out every day!
Hamas don't care so let us carry on ethnic cleansing in peace!
Hamas don't care so stop complaining when we bomb hospitals every month!

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 14:01

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Hamas are murdering raping terrorist scum and supporting them is illegal. Sinwar needs to rot in hell.

MissyB1 · 06/11/2024 14:02

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/11/2024 13:51

Neither side want peace.

The civilians watching their families and friends being killed every day do. The medical staff treating kids with limbs blown off and horrific burns do. The Aid agencies seeking the effects of starvation do.

It's up to the rest of the world to enforce a permanent ceasefire now. Standing by and just wringing hands (or even worse funding the war), makes other Governments complicit.

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 14:05

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Dear oh dear....what a disgusting post.

Can't believe you actually used the term decent Jews......what do you call the ones who don't agree with you?

Lucyshoebeck · 06/11/2024 14:05

Grow up@whytetulip
The sane people know who the rapists are
It's Israelis where rapists go on morning tv shows to JUSTIFY the rapes of Palestinian prisoners and people riot for the RIGHT TO RAPE Palestinians
You are sick in the head if you support the pathetic IOF who dress up in the lingerie of the Palestinian women they have displaced or murdered

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 14:09

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Are you a student? You sound like the type who gets all their news from tiktok

Stretchedresources · 06/11/2024 14:11

I don't think any of the violent men on either side want peace.

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 14:15

Lucyshoebeck · 06/11/2024 14:05

Grow up@whytetulip
The sane people know who the rapists are
It's Israelis where rapists go on morning tv shows to JUSTIFY the rapes of Palestinian prisoners and people riot for the RIGHT TO RAPE Palestinians
You are sick in the head if you support the pathetic IOF who dress up in the lingerie of the Palestinian women they have displaced or murdered

Why do I need to grow up for pointing out that it is against UK law to support a terrorist group who murdered, raped and kidnapped civilians?

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/11/2024 14:15

MissyB1 · 06/11/2024 14:02

The civilians watching their families and friends being killed every day do. The medical staff treating kids with limbs blown off and horrific burns do. The Aid agencies seeking the effects of starvation do.

It's up to the rest of the world to enforce a permanent ceasefire now. Standing by and just wringing hands (or even worse funding the war), makes other Governments complicit.

Ok, Hamas and the Israeli government don't want peace. Point is there is no will for peace from the people with the power to try to achieve it.

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 14:15

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:46

@Fairy0708 what's that got to do with your initial statement that Israel hasn't been in peace?

And yes Jews, Christians and Muslims were living together in peace for 1000s of years prior so why did they cause so much suffering to establish their own state?

Again, wake up and stick to your original point rather than bringing 'facts' that actually prove my point.

🤔 wake up? You do realise the stage of Israel was established after the holocaust where 6 million Jews were killed...wowowow wake up and get your coffee darling

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 14:17

Doford · 06/11/2024 13:14

Now we are just getting a bit silly. Are you about to move on “the promised land” part? Who promised it?

No I'm not actually. I don't think it was a promised land... Do you?

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 14:18

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:11

Wonder why that is? Britain and the us are to blame for it. Decades of genocide and murder.

It's because the Palestinians are under a terrorist regime with the sole purpose of destroying Israel.

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 14:23

FfsBrian · 06/11/2024 13:21

Hamas are and have always been war dogs. They never want peace - it’s not who they are or their directive. AND they have been very vocal and honest about that on several TV broadcasts

Thats why they spent billions of ££ we sent of aid money on building tunnels under the ground and letting the people of Gaza rot - no electricity or clean water - Israel paid for it all.

It’s also the reason none of the surrounding Arab countries would take the Palestinians in because of past events where they caused civil war.

It’s also the reason students in the UAE have been banned from flying the Palestinian flag & marching - and have even been deported.

Yet time and time again the white liberals of Europe with romanticised ideas and no real understanding of who these demons are continue wear the kaffir like fools and go on marches. Queers for Palestine is the sickest joke of all.

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This this this this this. All these Europeans sitting comfortably behind their keyboards with no real understanding of the history and life in Israel. I always wonder on these threads how many have been to Israel, seen every major shopping centre with airport style security, every street with a bomb shelter, every modern house or building block with bomb shelters. Just absolute ignorance and brain washing by media.

Scammersarescum · 06/11/2024 14:24

Hamas are Islamic terrorists. They are fundamentalists who went into Israel a year ago and raped and murdered. Those murders included beheading babies. There is footage of Hamas terrorists shooting two unarmed Jewish women who were cowering behind a desk.

Those are facts. I've yet to see those posting in support of Hamas produce evidence that they are all poor beleaguered orphans. In fact @lucyshoebeck that is simply bullshit. Indeed within days of the attacks on Israel a Hamas terrorist cell phone was recovered. It showed he had sent messages to his mother crowing about how many Jews he had murdered. Not much of an orphan then.

I fully support Israel's right to self determination. Jews have been in the middle East for centuries. They deserve their homeland. The public support of a murderous terrorist proscribed group like Hamas on this forum show why.

Make no mistake if Hamas were in charge here our lives would not be worth living. As women, our rights and freedoms are anathema to them. No woman should be supporting them. They are monsters.

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 14:25

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:31

Unfortunately people have been ‘brainwashed’ to think being Anti Israel is the same as being Anti Jewish

In many cases it is.

And what is your definition of Zionism?

In plain terms it’s a political ideology (not religious) to create a homeland for Jewish people by any means (including through the eradication of the current inhabitants of the land as they consider themselves are the superior race which ‘deserves’ the land). What’s your definition of Zionism?

Saying Anti Zionism is the same as Anti Jewish would be an insult to many Jewish people as you’re are basically saying Judaism is Zionism, it isn’t. Where in the Torah does the actions of Zionist are justified? Do you agree Zionism is not the same as Judaism? What’s the difference if you agree?

And if 80% of Jews are Zionists are you basically telling me it’s OK to expel and kill Palestinians to create a homeland?

Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky are two are many examples of Jewish people who have been vocal against the Zionist ideology. Check them out? I

Feelingathomenow · 06/11/2024 14:27

Well of course they don’t. They purposely set out to inflict the most horrific acts against the Israeli people leaving Israel with no choice put to set out to destroy them. They hide behind the women and children in Palestine. They want to cause all out war against the Jews and their supporters and cause people in other countries to take against the Jews. Hamas are evil people, of course they don’t want to do anything that makes Israel look reasonable. And people lap up the evil Israel shit because they are incapable of critical thinking.