"You see us burning, you stay silent..."

[Scirocco]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54y0qplgvo

Please, read, listen and see what is being done to innocent people here.

Remember them.

Now, perhaps more than at any previous time in history, we can easily know the human cost of hate and violence, and the human cost of looking away.

Remember them. And remember all the other innocent people who have died and continue to die because of hatred and because of apathy.

Auvergne63, The world - Yes. The world sees it as a success.
Please provide unbiased evidence for this,
My answer is destrcution / removal of Hamas.
The only way to achieve this is to raze Gaza to the ground. Is this what you support?
You know that this war will still continue tomorrow, next week, next year. Until the world gets what they want.
There is being ill informed and there is being deluded!

UNBIASED EVIDENCE COMING RIGHT UP .....

1. Look at the news today, yesterday, a year ago. Israel attacks on Gaza Lebanon Syria Yemen continuing. All supported / assisted with US UK Nato hardware. F35 for christ sake are the most modern advanced aircraft in the world. Fighting a war for a year needs a lot of resources- the world enables this war by supplying essential armaments. If it was just business / free trade they'd be arming both sides. They're not.
2. No. Other ways exist. West Bank Palestinians removed Hamas themselves. People otherthrow their dictators frequently, especially in situations where overwhelming military defeat is inevitable (Egypt and Lybia would be good evidence of this). Egypt and Jordan are two neighbouring states who renounce terrorism and are treated favourably by the West.
3. The war is still continuing. No appetite for a cease fire from any quarter. Israel continuing to drop western Bombs on Gaza is the evidence.
4. Deluded?. You think the war is going to end tomorrow through some sort of diplomacy? If so why not do it last week, last month , a year ago.

So why am I deluded?

So only Muslims are obligated to help them. The rest of us nice Christian countries can stick out fingers in our ears cos they are not like us.

What happened on the days preceding October 7th??

Could you point out what is antisemitic, in her post? If you are going to make serious allegations, you need to back it up.

I always think that the difference between a Palestinian and I is our place of birth.

Saying it's a badge of honour to be called antisemitic is deeply disturbing. As are the comments about the "zionist machine" brainwashing people.

1. You haven't provided any unbiased evidence at all. Which Western government is stating this is a success? Where are your sources for this? Here a few examples of heads of government have said about Israel actions in Gaza Biden (although he is the biggest hypocrite known to man, in my view) Innocent civilians in Gaza are also going through hell. Thousands and thousands killed, including aid workers. Too many families dislocated, crowding into tents, facing a dire humanitarian situation. As we look ahead we must also address the rise of violence against innocent Palestinians on the West Bank and set the conditions for a better future, including a two-state solution where the world where Israel enjoys security and peace and full recognition and normalised relations with all its neighbours, where Palestinians live in security, dignity, and self-determination in a state of their own. Jon’s King Abdullah II It often feels that there was not a moment when our world was not in turmoil. And yes, I cannot recall a time of greater peril than this. For nearly a year, the sky blue flag flying over UN shelters and schools in Gaza has been powerless to protect innocent civilians from Israeli bombardment. So it’s no surprise that both inside and outside this hall, trust in the UN’s cornerstone principles and ideals is crumbling. The harsh reality many see is that some nations are above international law, that global justice does bend to the will of power, and that human rights are selective; a privilege to be granted or denied at will. Colombia President Gustavo Petro That richest 1 percent of humanity, the powerful global oligarchy, is the one that allows bombs to be dropped on the women, elderly, and children of Gaza, Lebanon, or Sudan. The power of a country in the world is no longer exercised by the type of economic or political system it has or its ideology but power is wielded according to how much capacity one has to destroy humankind. That is why we are not listened to when we vote to stop the genocide in Gaza. Even though we are the majority of the presidents of the world and represent the majority of humanity, we are not listened to by a minority of presidents who can stop the bombing. Emir of Qatar Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani Every year I stand on this podium and begin my speech by talking about the Palestinian cause, the absence of justice, the perils of believing that it can be neglected, and the illusions of making peace without a just solution. The ongoing Israeli aggression for nearly a year is nothing but a result of the absence of a sincere political will, deliberate international failure to resolve the Palestinian issue with a just solution, and insistence of the occupying Israeli authorities to impose a fait accompli on the Palestinians and the world with all types of force. There is no Israeli partner for peace during the current government’s tenure, and no peace process taking place, but rather a genocide. The end of the occupation and the Palestinian people exercising their right to self-determination is neither a favour nor a gift from anyone. South African President Cyril Ramaphosa The violence the Palestinian people are being subjected to is a grim continuation of more than half a century of apartheid. We South Africans know what apartheid looks like. We lived through it. We suffered and died under it. We will not remain silent and watch as apartheid is perpetrated against others. In December last year, South Africa approached the International Court of Justice seeking an order to prevent Israel from committing genocide against the people of Gaza. Belgium Prime Minister Alexander De Croo In the Middle East, decades of dehumanising the enemy has led to a vicious cycle of violence, resulting in the killing of over 40,000 people in less than a year. Early on in the Gaza war, my government warned against lack of respect for international humanitarian laws on both sides, and the disproportionate attack with blatant disregard for Palestinian civilian life. We’ve been calling for an immediate and lasting ceasefire for many months, but today it seems more distant than ever. Hostilities need to stop before the whole region becomes engulfed in violence. Action speaks louder than words. Belgium has imposed a weapons embargo. We never ceased our support to UNRWA and other humanitarian organisations. French President Emmanuel Macron Israel’s war in Gaza has gone on for too long. The tens of thousands of Palestinian civilian casualties cannot be justified or explained away. Too many innocent people have died and we mourn them, as well. This war must, therefore, end and a ceasefire must be achieved as quickly as possible, along with the release of the hostages and a massive flow of humanitarian aid into Gaza. It is absolutely crucial for a new phase to begin in Gaza, for the weapons to fall silent, for humanitarian workers to return, and for civilian populations to be protected. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer Around the world, more fires are breaking out and burning with ever greater intensity. Exacting a terrible toll in Gaza, Lebanon, Ukraine, Sudan, Myanmar, Yemen, and beyond. I call on Israel and Hezbollah: Stop the violence. Step back from the brink. We need to see an immediate ceasefire to provide space for a diplomatic settlement, and we are working with all partners to that end. Because further escalation serves no one. This is intimately linked with the situation in Gaza where, again, we need to see an immediate ceasefire. It shames us all that the suffering in Gaza continues to grow. Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif Can we, as human beings, remain silent while children lie buried, under the rubble of their shattered homes? Can we turn a blind eye to the mothers, cradling the lifeless bodies of their children? This is not just a conflict; this is systematic slaughter of innocent people; an assault on the very essence of human life and dignity. The blood of Gaza’s children stains the hands of not just the oppressors butِ also of those who are complicit in prolonging this cruel conflict Barbados Prime Minister Mia Mottley And let me be clear, we condemn the actions of Hamas on October 7, but we equally and strongly deplore the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza, which is the result of the disproportionate use of force by Israel. There’s no justification for it and that is why treaties exist governing the rules of engagement for war. Indonesia Minister for Foreign Affairs Retno Lestari Priansari Marsudi Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday mentioned, and I quote, that “Israel seeks peace,” that “Israel yearns for peace”. Really? How are we supposed to believe that statement? Yesterday, while he was here, Israel conducted unprecedented massive air attacks on Beirut. PM Netanyahu wants the war to continue … We must stop that. We must pressure Israel to come back to a political solution for the two-state solution. As I speak now more than 41,000 in Gaza have been killed, the situation in West Bank Lebanon is deteriorating. Is that not enough? Will the Security Council only take action to stop Israel’s atrocities when all Palestinian are displaced? Or when 100,000 Palestinians are killed? Or when a regional armed conflict breaks out? That will be too late! Malaysia Minister for Foreign Affairs Mohamad Hasan Just months ago, the world witnessed Israel’s mockery, and utter disrespect of the United Nations in this very hall, with the insolent shredding of the UN Charter. Israel’s actions, with each passing day, raise our doubts as to whether it actually believes in the UN system, or values its membership in this organisation. Let there be no doubt: The question of Gaza is a direct test of the capability of the United Nations. Let this 76-year-old issue not age into a century of our failure to uphold justice. Let our dreams of a free Palestine live beyond today, and beyond the words that we say. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez In Palestine, for almost a year now we’ve been witnessing an unconscionable spiral of death and devastation which is now, unfortunately, spreading to Lebanon. This is an escalation of the conflict, which is woefully grave in nature. Spain condemns in the strongest terms the death of innocent civilians once again and consequently, I wish to once again call for de-escalation, detente and diplomacy. We must put an end to the conflict in Gaza and tackle the root causes of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that’s the only way that we’ll be able to successfully extinguish the hotbeds of tension that are jeopardising regional and global stability. Everything we’re seeing daily in Gaza, and now unfortunately in Lebanon, is forcing us to think about the very validity of international humanitarian law just as we mark the 75th anniversary of the Geneva Conventions. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas The massacres, the crimes, the genocide that Israel has been perpetrating against our people since its inception in 1948 to this very day will not go unpunished; there is no statute of limitations. But despite repeated calls, the world has not succeeded in obliging Israel to stop this war of genocide and its war crimes against innocent civilians. Palestinian people, for almost a year now, have been “subjected to one of the most heinous crimes of our era”. Seventy-five percent of everything in Gaza has been fully destroyed. The world bears responsibility for the situation of our people in Gaza and the West Bank. We want a solution that will protect both countries, the State of Palestine and the State of Israel, so that they can coexist in peace, stability and security.

So no, the whole world does not support the Israeli government or deems their actions a success.

Auvergne63,

Saying things and doing things are very different in International politics

I'm not calling it a success.

I'm saying that the world (as in the big boys with power & influence, the majority of the world / UN) sees it as a success of sorts. After all they are .... 1. aware what is happening, 2. Enabling it to happen by supply of hardware, 3. Doing nothing to stop it.

This means they are perceiving a benefit of some sort greater than if they chose to stop it.

main points for the world to want continue the war ... Israel is seen an important ally in a chaotic region. Hamas are very dangerous terrorists / gangsters waging war and alienating everyone now and in the future.

Main points for the world to stop the war ... vast civilian casualties.

The world has weighed these up and its tilting in favour of continuation and that's what will happen tomorrow unless something drastic changes.

Read her post again. She said that if you are accused of antisemitism for criticising the actions of the Israeli government, then it is a badge she is willing to wear.
Regarding the Zionist brainwashing, here what Gideon Levy wrote:
"“Thanks to the media and the politicians—two of the worst agents for dumbing down and blinding Israeli society—we learned that the Arabs were born to kill, the whole world is against us, anti-Semitism determines how Israel is dealt with and there is no connection between our actions and the price we pay.”
Maybe it is what she refereed to.

Saying things and doing things are very different in International politics
Indeed but the fact that they are said aloud is significant.
I'm not calling it a success.
You are happy to state that the world sees it as a success but are enable to provide anything independent and unbiased to support your opinion. Without that, it is just your opinion as the rest of your post.

@JaneDoeHere and @Beyondthedarksun I'm not remotely anti-Semitic. I abhor anti-Semitism and all forms of prejudice.
Of course I'm horrified that anyone would think that, and of course not proud of it if they actually did. In fact it's a tactic Zionists use that silenced me for years. What I was saying was that allegations of anti-Semitism are what happens when you criticise Israel and the current genocide. So the allegation means nothing and has almost become a badge of honour, because it just means I'm calling out a genocide.

That's all I meant, which I'm pretty sure I made clear in the beginning.

As explained above, the lives of innocent civilians in Gaza, especially children, are more important than my hurt feelings, so I'll leave it there.

It’s not the entire world or even a majority that want the war to continue or are supplying weapons.

“Video of the Emergency Special Session of the General Assembly.
Member States adopted a resolution, demanding an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire”, the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages and well as “ensuring humanitarian access”. It passed with a large majority of 153 in favour and 10 against, with 23 abstentions” - Dec 2023 UN

It’s just a few of the most powerful that do- US and Germany. US has veto on the UNSC, so nothing can be done, no peacekeeping force or sanctions authorised. Germany is the powerhouse in the EU, so that means even though other member states in the EU are against, the Germans will prevent any EU level action. Everyone else doesn’t want to tangle with the US or Germany.

Why else is Starmer being such a wet lettuce? 🥬 he is as much a lapdog as Blair was with the Iraq war.

Maybe he is praying 5th November delivers a miracle.

Member States adopted a resolution, demanding an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire”, the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages and well as “ensuring humanitarian access”. It passed with a large majority of 153 in favour and 10 against, with 23 abstentions” - Dec 2023 UN

It is important to look at why this resolution hasn't yet happened...

1. Hamas said no to hostage release.

And look at the only conditions that will enable this resolution to happen....
1 Removal / total defeat of Hamas

Which is why the war continues today almost a year on from this UN resolution. It's not that Starmer is doing nothing. He is (as are most countries) supporting Israel to defeat Hamas, which will release the hostages, which will create ceasefire, which will enable humanitarian access.

It's a work in progress. The progress is very long and painful for Palestinian civilians. No one has yet come up with an alternative, better or faster process to satisfy this resolution.

@ProgressivePilgrim

this part was particularly shocking,

“it's a badge of honour to be called antisemitic “

Exactly. We're so utterly privileged to be living in the comfort of the west, not fearing daily for our lives and the lives of our families and neighbours.
The least we can do is shout from the rooftops that we want an immediate unilateral ceasefire, and for this horror to end. Silence isn't an option at this point. If all we have to cope with in return is false allegations of anti-Semitism, then so be it. I refuse to be silenced. I can't look in the mirror if I feel I've not spoken out for justice.

One too many genocide apologists on this thread.

ProgressivePilgrim Does a unilateral ceasefire include Hamas and Hezbollah? From past experience they have not adhered to that and show no signs of doing so now. And they couldn't care less whether you or anyone else 'can look in the mirror'. Being called antisemitic is NOT a badge of honour. It is racism.

Personally if someone called me racist I wouldn't consider it to be a badge of honour no matter why they called me it. I'm sure if someone said they are frequently called Islamaphobic and they now regard it as a badge of honour you'd be leaping to their defence too.

And the poster never mentioned Gideon Levy. They talked about the "the brainwashing of those brought up by the Zionist machine" and "Zionism is western colonialism" and "people have been brainwashed into thinking Zionists are the good guys" and similar things in their now deleted posts. Although I suppose you're going to argue that there's nothing wring with that and that Jewish people should just pretend that they haven't spent their whole lives hearing dogwhistles like that. Although it's so loud I'm not sure it can even be called a dogwhistle anymore.

Oh for goodness sake, you're quoting me completely out of context. I think you know this. In the same post I made it clear that I'm not anti-Semitic in the slightest. It wouldn't occur to me to be. It's not about Judaism or any other religion. It's about colonialism and genocide.
I've explained this. So, not sure why you're persisting? If anything you're proving my point - that it's the standard allegation if you criticise Israel.
I would never wish to offend anyone. But, you're deliberately choosing to misunderstand, and not sure what more I can say 🤷‍♀️

Exactly, and trying to distract by nit picking posts they disagree with.

Yes of course it includes everyone. That's what unilateral means.

I'm not an anti-Semite, and have spent my whole life opposing racism and fascism thanks. If someone was actually being anti-Semitic, then yes, it would be racist. But, being accused of anti-Semitism without any cause, just because we're criticising Israel's actions has become meaningless.

Even Jeremy Corbyn was accused of anti-Semitism, and he's the least racist person in the world!

Woe. really serious allegations there, and utterly false. But, never mind.

Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic. There is no question about it.