UN General Assembly overwhelmingly calls for end of Israeli Occupation

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United Nations demands an end to Israel’s illegal presence in the Palestinian territories within 12 months.

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To be fair to the UN, UNRWA employs a ton of local employees as it effectively does what should be a governments roles - teachers, nurses, cleaners, drivers - and I'm not surprised some turned out to be Hamas terrorsits as well as sympathisers because that's reflective of the local population.

And UNIFIL's mandate ties its hands. For e.g. they weren't allowed to inspect private homes. - so guess where Hezbollah hid thir missiles?

Unwomen - yeah, no excuse on that one.

A lot also isn't the UN's fault. It's not the UN using the GA to demonstratively walk out to score political points but the member states. The UNGA is just the forum.

Not sure who is making authoritative statements to be honest. When requested links then we are told this is well known but no proof provided
So we have to believe your words.

and make authoritative statements on the topic.
I didn't, I was talking about the most recent general assembly, the one this thread is about.

Or you could actually learn a little bit about history.

Ever heard of the Arab boycott of Israel?
They've always walked out, it's not news and it's not new. Clearly doesn't make news in the English media until joined by other countries. It was only news when they actually stayed.

An authoriative statement is to say "It's only about Netanyahu and not Israel" when this is something which has existed well before Netanyahu.

You said that they walked out only because of Netanyahu and not because it's Israel which is totally wrong since they've always walked out on Israel.

You should read about the Arab boycott of Israel prior to the 1990s.

You said that they walked out only because of Netanyahu and not because it's Israel which is totally wrong since they've always walked out on Israel.

My statement was talking about THIS General Assembly.

since they've always walked out on Israel.
So you have said.

Arab boycott of Israel
What has it got to do with UN General Assembly?

The boycott extended to the UN as well. They've always boycotted Israel. Twas always thus. Go read about it.

Basically you're saying all previous walkouts and boycotts were to do with Netanyahu and not Israel even when Netanyahu was not PM 😂

ANd it's interesting that only Israel was subject to such a walk out. When we look at the paragons of human rights speaking at the UNGA: Iran, Syria. Sudan. Myanmar, DRC, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, DPRK, Libya. I mean you might not like Israel but, man, the hypocrisy is quite astounding.

Basically you're saying all previous walkouts and boycotts were to do with Netanyahu and not Israel even when Netanyahu was not PM 😂
Basically I am not 😂I have said twice that I am talking about this GA and I have said I wasn't aware what had gone before Netanyahu. Go read back on responses because I think you are so quick to find offence you are not reading them correctly.

The boycott extended to the UN as well. They've always boycotted Israel. Twas always thus. Go read about it.
I did and didn't see that. I will have to read further clearly the links I looked at didn't provide the full picture.

I mean you might not like Israel but, man, the hypocrisy is quite astounding.
Never said I didn't like Israel, where did I? Whose hypocrisy?

Are we looking at the same picture? Most of the seats I’m seeing are empty.

Even the guardian seems to think the UN is failing https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/30/world-tumultuous-united-nations-leadership-flaws?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Yes but not for the same reasons Israelis do. It also concludes

Despite these flaws, the necessity for the UN is greater than ever in the face of new global threats to peace and the escalating challenges of the climate crisis. The thousands of UN staff deployed in hotspots around the world deserve our respect and recognition. They deserve greater leadership and vision as well.

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That was a generalised you, didn't mean you personally. Sorry, reread it and realised how it sounded!

Yeah, that's how it always is at the GA. The speeches are actually interminably boring, no world leaders go to the GA for the speeches 😂
They're there to have bilateral meetings and network with other leaders, they're certainly not sitting in the GA hall listening to the PM of Paraguay or Samoa. Unless they come back in to demonstratively walk out when Israel speaks.

No problem thanks for clarification

You can't blame israelis for being suspicious of the UN
The UN literally has one definition for all the world's refugees and a separate definition for Palestinian refugees.
All refugees in the world cease to be refugees when they take the citizenship of another country (I.e. no longer in need of international protection) except Palestinians who refugees in perpetuity.

Unhcr runs a big resettlement programme whereby refugees are settled in third countries. Who are forbidden from taking part in this programme? Palestinian refugees registered with unrwa who must remain refugees.

It's not really the un's fault - it's the member states who decided that Palestinian refugees are different to every other refugee in the world - but the un must apply it.

I do agree. No criminal should stand on the UN

😂 who'd decide that? That's now how the UN works. Russia is on the security council ffs.

You can't blame israelis for being suspicious of the UN
The UN literally has one definition for all the world's refugees and a separate definition for Palestinian refugees.
Why would this cause Israelis to be suspicious of the UN?

Why single out Palestinian refugees as somehow being forever refugees as opposed to every other refugee in the world?

There's a whole thread on this where it was discussed/ debated in the CITME board scroll down, I'm not going over it again. I still don't get why Israelis would be suspicious of this or is disagree with it a better word.

Because it's obvious that it's to a stick to beat israel with. They must be allowed to return even though they are now Jordanian for 3 generations.
Why prevent Palestinians from being resettled?
Why are they such special snowflakes compared with Afghans or Rohingya or Sudanese or Congolese or syrian?

Again. There's a whole thread on this where it was discussed/ debated in the CITME board scroll down, I'm not going over it again

Read it see what was discussed and resurrect it if you want to add to it. I'm not being smart but it's exhausting repeating debates a few months on.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/jordanian-fm-arab-world-willing-to-guarantee-israels-security-if-palestinian-state-established/

In a recent press conference on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi insisted that Arab and Muslim countries will guarantee Israel’s security if Jerusalem agrees to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines,

We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued.

I'm not searching in the realms of citme for threasd on something I've studied in depth. I know what I'm talking about and why Palestinians who have their own definition - it's as a weapon against Israel. There is no other reason why the 1951 refugee convention would not apply to them.

How will they do that given that they never managed to stop Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen being used by Iran as puppets?