Boycotting Israeli products/services

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I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

I support the state of Israel and its fight against terrorism.

Far more civilians died in the uk/us war against Isis. Far far more died in Syria. Do you boycott Syria?

Don't you trust yourself more than randoms on the internet?

Most Arab Israelis are supportive of the state of Israel and prefer to live there than the Palestinian Territories. Christian and gay Palestinians have been given asylum in Israel from the Palestinian terroritories and surrounding arab countries.

@Murica I trust myself and my knowledge very much, but I'm open to other peoples views, and interested in the content they consume to form these views. That okay with you?

@User2460177 could you provide references for that statement?

Vile. The old antisemitism is just the same as the new.

Have you never heard of an internet search engine? They're all the rage.

Sure. But it's surprising that you didn't know the extent of the atrocities committed on October 7. Why?

Yep.

https://www.thejc.com/news/community/man-arrested-after-attempted-kidnap-of-12-year-old-and-2-year-old-baby-in-stamford-hill-t27ppxsh

I'm sorry you're going through this; it's not right.

There is a world of difference between boycotting companies which contribute to the financing of a government with which someone disagrees, and targeting a locally owned business on account of the owner's faith or ethnicity. The latter is absolutely unacceptable.

Depending on what organisation it is that's targeted your business, there might be scope to contact the organisation and tell them that you aren't owned by or funding the Israeli government so they shouldn't be targeting you in their boycott campaigns. If they're reasonable people, then that might lead to them taking down any social media posts and potentially prompt them to reconsider how they're deciding what businesses to target (eg are they being influenced by either conscious or unconscious antisemitic prejudice?). You shouldn't have to do this, it's not right that you've been put in this situation, but it might be a way to reduce any damage to your business. If they don't respond constructively and remove the posts then you could also consider legal action or reporting them to the Police on the basis that you are being targeted due to your faith and their actions could constitute a hate crime.

It starts with boycotts, then the antisémites are emboldened & it leads to violence.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/three-teens-arrested-in-france-on-suspicion-of-raping-12-year-old-jewish-girl/

You couldn't be more wrong.

Even Israeli civilians are protesting en masse. They just aren't showing that side as it's bad publicity for the Israeli government.

The Israeli protests have been well documented across MSM, so your statement is rather misleading.

Who's they?

Yes

Methylsulfonylmethane ?

Id like to be clear any boycott I would support would be aimed at the state of Israel because if their current actions in Gaza. I do not support targeting Jewish people or businesses because they are Jewish.

I note Ireland has been referred to on this thread.
I live in Southern Ireland. One of my parents was from the north and my family still live there. I have no interest in a united Ireland. By the time of the Good Friday Agreement I was sick of the whole bloody thing and I only had to visit.
My parent never wanted to go back to the north he was so sick of it all. Yet there was a time if people had heard his accent in England they would have wrongly assumed he was an IRA supporter whereas he despised them and their methods.

I don’t personally know anyone in Southern Ireland who wants a united Ireland. My family in the North are much better off economically than they would be in the south. Most people have moved on and politically want issues such as health and housing discussed.

I have empathy for those on both sides of Israel Palestine. So many ordinary people like my parent caught in the middle of a conflict.

It is very well known that many in Israel aren’t keen on their government. The protests against judicial reforms were pretty prominent in the news before the 7 Oct massacre. The anti-government protests and the demonstrations in Israel about the war and hostages have similarly received widespread news coverage.

Have you considered that you might not be getting your news from a very wide range of sources. I’m not sure who you mean by ‘they’.

Have you considered that Israelis living in Israel might be motivated by different factors than people in other countries and that it’s possible some people are motivated by antisemitism.

If you honestly believe that the Israelis routinely teach their children that all Muslims should be killed, in the same way that many Palestinian and other Arab Muslims (not all) routinely teach their children that all Jews are sub-human and should be killed, you are either incredibly ignorant or incredibly naive.
Of course there are a small number of right-wing Israelis who might feel that way, but have you not seen the millions of Israelis protesting weekly against Netanyahu? The images of pages from Palestinian school textbooks? The many photos of young Palestinian children proudly training with guns? The 20% of Israelis who are Muslim Arabs with full civil rights and enjoy living in the Middle East's only democracy, and certainly do not want to live in Arab countries, especially if they are women? The founding charter of Hamas, which explicitly calls for the death of all Jews (Jews, not Israelis)?

That's a pretty unique concept of international relations you have there. Governments represent states. States not governments are party to treaties and international agreements (including human rights laws) so it is states that are condemned for breaching agreements.

Moreover, regarding boycotting by individuals, Israelis are fond of describing their country as a democracy: "the only democracy in the middle East". In a democracy, unlike an authoritatian states, there is an assumed link between the people and the governments they vote for.

In other words Israelis have more responsibility for their government than Chinese people do for theirs.

So for those who are boycotting Israeli products, how does it work?

Do you boycott goods made in Israel by Jewish people or Jewish owned companies? Goods in Israel made by Christians or Muslims? Do you care if the company owner supports or doesn't support the Israeli government policies you dislike?

Do you boycott Israeli owned businesses in the UK or other countries outside of Israel? Jewish businesses that sell Israeli made goods? (because lots of items Jewish people might use are made in Israel)

I cannot speak for everyone but I would imagine if people are boycotting Israeli products it is Israeli products made, produced in Israel It is not about boycotting Jewish products it is about Israel.
Do you boycott Israeli owned businesses in the UK or other countries outside of Israel?
I would think not. It is about having a negative impact on the Israeli economy through boycott not boycotting an Israeli individuals business outside of Israel

Do you boycott Israeli owned businesses in the UK or other countries outside of Israel? Jewish businesses that sell Israeli made goods? (because lots of items Jewish people might use are made in Israel)
Made in Israel goods yes, whoever is selling them. An Israeli business in the UK that is selling goods from all over the world? No, just their Israeli produced goods.

The purpose of a boycott is to inflict some economic loss on the target, or to indicate a moral outrage, usually to try to compel the target to alter an objectionable behavior -the target being Israel

Is boycott as a concept new to people? I have been boycotting goods and certain companies for various different reasons since my teens.

I can only imagine the Tesco staff having a great laugh, at your expense. How utterly cringeworthy.

Yes, I guess the dogs would have been hugely offended.

Another bunch of condescending virtue signallers, acting smug. So you would not go ahead with a trip to Euro Disney, just so you could say look at how moral I am.