Boycotting Israeli products/services

[the7Vabo]

I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

This was the ad

One of the accounts you’ve posted is the one that was calling for boycotting delta as well because some of their flight staff were using Palestinian flag badges. They were disclosing their names and social media accounts and . They didn’t stop until delta introduced a change so only usas flag was allowed.

to me it’s the same. Some boycotts are good. Some others are bad

Ok so the issue is really with using the 1972 Olympics for the ad, which I agree is a very bizarre and questionable choice considering it was the Olympics where there was a terrorist attack and murder of Israeli athletes. No excuse if the marketing team is young, I was not around in 1972 but knew about that attack, there has been plenty of documentaries and films about it since. Ad should be pulled on this basis alone.

I don't think labelling Bella Hadid an anti-Semite is accurate or fair.

Well, you do, you support state backed terrorism from a state whose actions have created the conditions for Hamas to thrive.

Yes, that is a particularly terrible account that thrives on doxxing people that they perceive to have acted Anti Israel. It published the stewards picture and full name in the hopes of getting him fired putting him in danger simply for wearing a Palestinian flag badge. However the reaction on Social media was so swift, loud and large that he kept his job and Delta changed their badge policy.

I agree. I’m not sure she’d have paid that much attention to what she was advertising either. This is an Adidas issue.

Misrepresenting things again Vittun? If you are referring to the tweet by the Raina account saying "Karma" on October 7th (with 1 like), I simply said that she is Palestinian and would have seen the situation through a different lens, you know being ethnically cleansed off her families land etc. Buy hey, keep twisting things, it's really doing wonders for the PR and winning many friends....

However the two tweets that have been posted in the previous page focus on Bella being the image of this ad. And as I’ve asked is the ad going to be removed or the product as well? If the product is the incorrect one these two accounts should be focusing on boycotting the product regardless of who is in the ad. I very much doubt adidas is going to throw away the product (tho I might be wrong)

So posting an account that wanted to boycott an airline is horrible, but saying that its understandable for someone to celebrate a terrorist attack is fine?

Many Jewish people have parents and grandparents who were ethnically cleansed but if they were laughing at a video of Palestinian civilians being murdered I doubt you would defend them.

Here is the account I am talking about, from it's bio it looks like a registered company/charity, it targets individuals who might not have the means to pay for lawyers to defend themselves, often putting them in danger.
https://x.com/StopAntisemites

The Raina account is a single individual Palestinian. Saying that I understand why she may feel that way is not endorsing her or terrorism.

You're right I am and have been absolutely sickened by some of the cruel things said by Pro Israeli accounts about Palestinians. There are screenshots that I equally don't endorse and also don't post here as it would be cruel to equate those specific posters to all pro Israelis.

Another account focusing on Bella rather than on the product. Focusing on a Palestinian artist that had nothing to do with 1972. So this feels to me anti Palestinian (as yet we’ve not seen any hamas propaganda from Bella and it should be ok to criticise a government if you’re not happy with it )

You're sickened by pro Israeli accounts bit not by an antisemite laughing at a massacre. That's fucked up.

Agree with your first paragraph.

Re Bella Hadid - it depends if she was aware of the offence and hurt that this advert would cause … but I agree this is really an Adidas’ issue.

I don’t understand why they chose to make this advertisement unless it was a deliberate attempt to exploit and make money from pro Palestinian groups?

I'm no longer going to engage with you. I have given you grace and space over different threads ignoring pointed digs, because I realised that you are either Jewish or have people close to you that are Jewish.
However you continue to misconstrue what I say to paint me in some image you have in your head, often in quite rude ways. So good luck out there. Realising that people who've been through things like Colonialism and occupation (as have a lot of the Global South) may see things differently is not a weakness, it points to empathy.

None of your personal attacks have been anything close to graceful. And defending an antisemite who thinks Jewish people being massacred is funny is not empathetic, it's disturbing, especially when you would never in a million years leap to the defence of someone celebrating attacks on Palestinian civilians.

I think it’s fair to say that Bella Hadid is extremely critical of Israel. I think this is understandable given her heritage and her upbringing which was very privileged and probably not exactly intellectual. She is also very in demand as a model. I would not be hugely surprised to learn that she didn’t even know about the 1972 Olympics - however her management should have advised her against this campaign. Especially when you remember that the founder of Adidas was literally a Nazi party member, it’s just a terrible campaign overall.

I would boycott Adidas but I’ve never bought anything from them anyway so 🤷‍♀️

The shoes are literally called SL72, explicitly referencing the 72 Olympics. I find it very hard to believe anyone actively involved in the politics of the region won't have heard of the massacre. Its very well known. Her team would be all over it before allowing her to do the campaign. And Addidas will have known exactly what they were doing. If we go along with the idea that everyone was totally ignorant, then there will be sackings at Addidas & Hadid's teams.....

Wouldn't have anything to do with Israel's actions and what happened to her family no?

Bella is well know to stirs up anti Israel and anti-Jews views.

I know I am wasting my breath but here are some nuggets:

She has stated that Israel is not a country but a land settled by colonizers that practice "ethnic cleansing, military occupation and apartheid over the Palestinian people."

Israel is "the only country in the world that keeps children as prisoners of war,"
Accusing Israel of "abduction, rape, humiliation, torture, murder of Palestinians years and years and years before Oct 7 2023."

Sharing a photo of the terrorist Ahmed Manasra, who in 2015 went out with his cousin to stab Jews.

I think these slanderous and false accusations and sharing lies and inaccuracies perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes are anti-Jews.

Let's not forget how she posted a video of herself on Instagram chanting“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free".

Yeah Bella let's chant about Israel’s right to exist and call upon the destruction of Israel, the world’s only Jewish state.

Given that her father and his family were ethnically cleansed from Palestine in 1948 is it not understandable that she holds these views?

No it's not!! At all.

Do you think it is understandable to blame all Palestinians for Hamas' attack??

Of course not. Yet here you and PPs are saying it is OK to blame all Jews for the actions of the Israeli Government.

Can you see the issue??

Or indeed sections of the Israeli people to dehumanise the Palestinians.

That's not what anyone is saying actually so you need to revise your accusation there because it's very offensive in its current form.