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Conflict in the Middle East

IDF airstrikes reportedly carried out on 'humanitarian area'

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Scirocco · 26/05/2024 22:18

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

The IDF have reportedly carried out airstrikes on displaced people, in an area Israel designated a 'humanitarian area'. They told people to go there, displaced people to that area, and have now reportedly bombed it.

Airstrikes on Rafah reportedly kill 30 after Hamas launches rockets at Tel Aviv

Medics in the southern Gaza city say the strikes hit an area of tents being used by displaced people.

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

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PearlKoala · 27/05/2024 13:53

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 13:47

From French PM Macron

Outraged by the Israeli strikes that have killed many displaced persons in Rafah.
These operations must stop. There are no safe areas in Rafah for Palestinian civilians.
I call for full respect for international law and an immediate ceasefire.

Great to see leaders speaking out. The scenes last night were nothing short of hellish. Burnt and beheaded children, absolutely shocking that this happened after the ICJ order and in what was supposed to be a safe place. I think it is clear though that speaking out isn't enough at this point when Israel are unwilling to listen, harsh sanctions really need to be implemented asap.

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 14:15

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:47

@Jessie21 Palestinians have been bombing Israel for decades.

In response to the unrivalled level of terror Israel have unleashed on them. Why do you think they developed the Iron Dome?

There is no defence for this. You cannot defend innocent women and children being bombed in their refugee tents.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 14:17

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

Exactly this. Regardless of any other opinions you have, how can you justify burning children alive in the tents they were told were safe. It's horrific.

PearlKoala · 27/05/2024 14:24

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

You absolutely aren't alone, so many of us are grappling with very big feelings today. What happened last night is just beyond what any of us could imagine. Take care of yourself today ❤️

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

Liv999 · 27/05/2024 14:46

@roarrfeckingroar what happened last night was barbaric, they told them they were safe in Rafah! When Hamas do something like this they're known as terrorists, the IDF have shown themselves as the terrorists they are, the whole world is watching and calling for them to stop and yet they continue, I hope Netanyahu and his cronies burn in hell

Efacsen · 27/05/2024 14:51

Confirmed death toll has risen to 45 with search continuing as many bodies so damaged by fire and blast - and likely more deaths due to lack of healthcare

allthingsred · 27/05/2024 14:56

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

No...no no no...no more.

I actually dont care who they think they were targetting.
These people were in tents with nothing. Trying to protect their children from the most high tech funded army in the world.
There is nothing legitimate about any of this

There is no defence. None.
The videos that have come out... It is pure demonic evil.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 15:01

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

No. There is no justification for killing children.

The IDF did this to strike back at the ICJ who ordered them to stop. They know the tide has turned against them and they can't continue to use the veil of their religion to hide from criticism.

Israel are carrying out a genocide. And they're not going to get away with it anymore.

ConnieCounter · 27/05/2024 15:14

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

Agree with the others. This post is really upsetting to read.

45 people were blown to bits and burned alive in their makeshift beds, in shitty little tents because they've already lost everything they had. Babies were killed, at least one lost its entire head. These are scenes of horror that are hard for us to even comprehend.

There's no justification for it. None. I'm sick to the back teeth of listening to people justifying the savage and barbaric murder of babies, children and civilians.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 15:17

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Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 15:20

@Alwayslookonthe
This was on sky which I believe is quite unbiased as it goes

Speaking on the latest Rafah strikes, Bell said the Geneva Convention was "very clear" and you "had to protect all civilians", even those who were around a legitimate target.
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"At face value the IDF attack was conducted into an area with a lot of civilians, not robust buildings but a lot of tents and a lot of casualties," he said.
"The danger is that risks undermining the confidence of the international community that Israel is actually conducting a war in accordance with the Geneva Convention."

Auvergne63 · 27/05/2024 15:21

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:37

Exactly this.

Hamas started and continue this. Place your blame at their feet.

Any state who thinks that it is acceptable to deliberately herd people into a "safe zone" then proceeds to bomb them, which in turns set the place on fire is beyond contempt. To defend this is beyond contempt too.
I have worked on a ward for burn victims. I lasted 2 months.
In the words of a doctor who managed to leave Gaza," the dead are the lucky ones".
Go and spend time in Gaza and then come back and tell me you still support this . I really doubt you would.

Cecilly · 27/05/2024 15:21

@Neverpostagain I guess the only way to defend the horrific actions of Israel is "Hamas made us do it". How lame.

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 15:23

What has happened is horrific. Saying that I think it can be expressed without comparing it to the holocaust and for many reasons it should not be compared to the holocaust.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 15:24

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 15:23

What has happened is horrific. Saying that I think it can be expressed without comparing it to the holocaust and for many reasons it should not be compared to the holocaust.

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Why?

It's a genocide.

Plain and simple. They have made that clear. They have no intention of fighting Hamas. They have no intention of protecting the civilians - Hamas accepted a ceasefire that Israel rejected.

Israel will not stop until Gaza has been levelled and Palestine does not exist anymore. They will not stop.

Scirocco · 27/05/2024 15:50

@quantumbutterfly thank you for your kind words. I desperately want peace, for everyone. Palestine is very dear to my heart; it is devastating to see what is being done to it. I have friends and colleagues there, people I deeply respect and care about. Some of their families are still there too. And innocent families like EllaDisenchanted's are living through this nightmare too. Because (mostly) men with too much greed and hate can't set their egos and anger aside and talk instead.

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Liv999 · 27/05/2024 15:58

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:37

Exactly this.

Hamas started and continue this. Place your blame at their feet.

No, this was Israels choice to do this, they alone are responsible for this, nobody else, just Israel

ConnieCounter · 27/05/2024 16:07

This is almost definitely just lip service, but an interesting take nonetheless. The tweeter is an Irish political correspondent.

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stomachamelon · 27/05/2024 16:38

Hamas accepted a ceasefire that Israel rejected.

@Jessie21 that's just not true though is it? They rewrote an already generous proposal by Israel and agreed to trade in dead bodies. They then sent Back this proposal as an acceptance.

You seem intent in trading in mistruths on here.

ConnieCounter · 27/05/2024 16:43

stomachamelon · 27/05/2024 16:38

Hamas accepted a ceasefire that Israel rejected.

@Jessie21 that's just not true though is it? They rewrote an already generous proposal by Israel and agreed to trade in dead bodies. They then sent Back this proposal as an acceptance.

You seem intent in trading in mistruths on here.

Oh come on. Are you really trying to argue that Israel wants a ceasefire? What nonsense.

Lenoftheglen · 27/05/2024 17:05

ConnieCounter · 27/05/2024 12:17

Yes. This happens every time there's a high profile atrocity committed by Israel. They'll be back in a few days.

Their silence is always quite deafening. However, they will be back.

Though one clearly couldn't help themselves.

It is staggering to me that in the face of waking up to videos of babies burnt to death - one even headless, someone can so casually pop on to say 'blame Hamas...'

I truly hope I don't know anyone like this in real life.

Auvergne63 · 27/05/2024 17:13

stomachamelon · 27/05/2024 16:38

Hamas accepted a ceasefire that Israel rejected.

@Jessie21 that's just not true though is it? They rewrote an already generous proposal by Israel and agreed to trade in dead bodies. They then sent Back this proposal as an acceptance.

You seem intent in trading in mistruths on here.

Why do you deny that Israel rejected the last ceasefire?
What's in the three-phase ceasefire deal Hamas backs, but Israel does not? | Reuters

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