IDF airstrikes reportedly carried out on 'humanitarian area'

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https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

The IDF have reportedly carried out airstrikes on displaced people, in an area Israel designated a 'humanitarian area'. They told people to go there, displaced people to that area, and have now reportedly bombed it.

I can. I realised things weren't right around here when people defended the murder of the preemies months ago.

Not normal.

There are some truly cruel people on this thread, trying to justify this. It’s the absolute cruelty that gets me, what people justify doing to their fellow human beings, because they are a different race to them living on a land they think they don’t belong.

You’re welcome. I thought you had turned a corner earlier as you posted some fairly intelligent comments, which I can’t remember agreeing with but did focus on the issues. I was quickly disappointed when I saw you once again revert back to insulting other posters and making sarcastic comments.

@BorgQueen They targetted a Hamas weapons dump, which caused the fire when the munitions exploded

Where was this reported please? As I haven't seen this reported anywhere that the target was a weapons dump
That actually makes the dreadful event a whole lot worse if they purposefully bombed ammunitions, which were likely to explode with thousands of refugee civilians nearby.

Yes it's not OK
So sorry Ella
Imagine if us brits were collectively labelled and called similar because of our governments involvement in other wars.

The same old tropes get trotted out trying to justify mass murder.

Human shields
Israel's right to exist
Antisemitism

No. This is the indiscriminate mass slaughter of innocent people.

And apparently it's their own fault.

Some folks have lost all sense of humanity.

I've just watched the C4 Dispatches programme.

Of the 12 cameramen - 11 are already dead.

Sorry Ella I agree it’s not OK to stereotype the whole of Israeli society in this way. It’s this sort of stereotyping that allows people to justify hate or violence towards Jewish people, or Palestinians, or any other group they deem fitting.

I am not surprised to be honest. Do I understand it? No.
It doesn't matter to them what the Israeli government does because you know, Hamas. I will never understand how people defend the killing of one child, let alone thousands of them since this started. It's abhorrent to me.
It isn't difficult to imagine yourself in Palestinian mothers' shoes and think from their perspective but for some, it's impossible.

Hamas didn't tell the civilians to evacuate to there. They didn't label the area a 'humanitarian' or 'safe' zone and order civilians to go there.

The Israeli government and military did.

They placed civilians at the site. Then, they bombed it.

@Auvergne63

"I am not surprised to be honest. Do I understand it? No. "

Months ago I was surprised. I didn't think that folks could be so callous. That was then.

Now I'm not surprised at all.

And no I don't understand it either.

Aljazeera reporting more Israeli bombing of residential areas in Rafah. There's no respite.

@Auvergne63 when I see those children suffering, it takes me back to a long period of time when one of my children was very unwell, and the distress I felt at not being able to make it better. Not being able to help my child was for me a pain that I felt throughout my entire body, it was if the whole world was wrong. I was lucky, my child is OK, we had health care and a safe home with plenty of food to eat. In these ideal circumstances, and without the added anger of this being caused by another human being, it took us both years to recover, me mentally, and my child physically and mentally. If these people survive, I wonder how they will begin to recover.

Or who they are TBH…dangerous.

So much rudeness. Do you treat everyone in RL when they try to have a conversation with you? You've shown zero ounces of compassion to what's happened. Tells us everything we need to know.

Me too.

My daughter has a chronic illness, and has regular outbreaks of potentially fatal skin infections.

I often used to think about what would happen in the case of war, or shortages, or some other catastrophe.

Without medication she would have died.

Apart from the appalling injuries that the children of Gaza have suffered, imagine the children in Gaza with treatable conditions like asthma, eczema, cancer, leukaemia, and all manner of other conditions and disabilities.

Their parents must be absolutely distraught.

I am sorry for what you both and your children have been through. 💐

Thank you @ScrollingLeaves

My daughter has eczema complications, resulting in herpes and streptococcus infections covering her entire body, which lead to kidney failure.

She would not survive in Gaza.

Imagine all the other treatable conditions that would not survive now.

And this is without the bombs.

err... I think you will find that the first terrorist attacks carried out in "israel" was pre 1948 by extremist zionist terrorists for example the Irgun which was an offshoot of one of the paramilitary groups that formed the IDF post 1948. both arab and british targets were bombed. examples include the bombing of the King David Hotel which resulted in the death of the then British ambassador.

these terrorist/paramilitary groups also murdered countless locall Jews who did not agree with mass immigration into the region.

so if a serial killer hid in your house with your whole family and kids - you would be fine for the police to lock the doors set fire to the house to kill the serial killer because he is a legitimate target?

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

No doubt they will be exonerated under the law. Who can ever prove someone was not doing something to the best of their ability.

Their killing ratio is 2 Hamas: 45 civilians including children, and more wounded though. If it was not intentional, it was bungled.

They are dragging Israel down in the eyes of the world seemingly like puppets in Hamas’s hands.

From the BBC:

The US called the images "heartbreaking" but insisted Israel had a right to defend itself.

"Israel has a right to go after Hamas, and we understand this strike killed two senior Hamas terrorists who are responsible for attacks against Israeli civilians," a White House national security spokesperson said.

For America to express the event in these terms, as though the mistake of the attack was not entirely out of proportion in relation to the gains -

given that 50 sheltering Palestinians were killed, including children, and at least 180 more are being treated for horrible wounds by one agency alone -

is not in the spirit of the law and makes the USA seem weak, it is so nonsensical as well as immoral.

Just at least say Israel made a catastrophic decision in carrying out that attack, and they had told them not to go there.

Javed Ali, the director of emergency response in Gaza for International Medical Corps, described the horrific scenes as the dying and wounded were brought for treatment following the Israeli attack on a tent camp for civilians sheltering in Rafah that killed 45 people.
“With this loud air strike that we heard, we just rushed to the hospital and in about five minutes or so after arrival we started seeing ambulances coming in. I think in total we had about 75 patients. Out of those 75, 25 were really critical,” Ali said in a video interview.
“I saw the dead body of a father who was basically holding his child perhaps around three years of age. They were burned and charred. We couldn’t separate them. So we had to put both of them together in a body bag,” he said.
“That was very, very hard.”
https://x.com/UNOCHA/status/1795179415820730733