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Conflict in the Middle East

IDF airstrikes reportedly carried out on 'humanitarian area'

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Scirocco · 26/05/2024 22:18

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

The IDF have reportedly carried out airstrikes on displaced people, in an area Israel designated a 'humanitarian area'. They told people to go there, displaced people to that area, and have now reportedly bombed it.

Airstrikes on Rafah reportedly kill 30 after Hamas launches rockets at Tel Aviv

Medics in the southern Gaza city say the strikes hit an area of tents being used by displaced people.

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

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Auvergne63 · 30/05/2024 09:08

Dulra · 30/05/2024 08:00

This is so upsetting. Burns injuries are horrific, the pain those people are in would be unbearable. It is cruel and evil to leave people suffering in this way. There is no reason to deny people proper medical care. No excuses, this is not how democratic nations conduct themselves so no one should ever claim that Israel is one.

I worked on a burn unit for 2 months 40 years ago. I am still haunted by it.

PeasfullPerson · 30/05/2024 09:13

Horrific. So most likely no proper pain relief and at very high risk of their burns becoming infected. If the US aren’t turning a blind eye to this suffering as they claim, then what are they going to do about it? Let me guess, nothing, absolutely nothing.

ConnieCounter · 30/05/2024 09:55

How do the pro-Israelis justify this? What's the spin on this to make it seem less bad or like Hamas's fault? For the avoidance of confusion I'm talking about people who are suffering severe burns and injuries due to bombing by Israel and are being denied basic healthcare by Israel.

If any are lurking here I'd love to know.

Auvergne63 · 30/05/2024 10:01

ConnieCounter · 30/05/2024 09:55

How do the pro-Israelis justify this? What's the spin on this to make it seem less bad or like Hamas's fault? For the avoidance of confusion I'm talking about people who are suffering severe burns and injuries due to bombing by Israel and are being denied basic healthcare by Israel.

If any are lurking here I'd love to know.

You won't get an answer I am afraid.

AhNowTed · 30/05/2024 10:16

Here's a take from an Israeli PhD I follow on X

1/ Returning to Israel after eight days of travel, tired and heartbroken. I am reading Israeli responses to the Rafah massacres and studying official Israel's plans and predictions (worth mentioning: Israel is looking for "alternative local leadership" as it destroys Gaza). --->

2/ The imperviousness of the Israeli public cuts me to the quick. Support for the war remains a consensus. Soldiers have begun to die again. 100000 Israeli are still displaced. The economy is in tatters. Netanyahu is beginning to gain in most polls. A cosmic vicious circle. --->

3/ Israel's genocide is grim and glum. Many Israelis will tell you that those celebrating are "messianic", and that once the "war" is over we will get our priorities in order and stop funding and protecting settlements in the West Bank. That was our mistake, you see. --->

4/ The "crazy" settlers demanded all of "normal" Israel's attention! Most of the IDF was protecting them and that left no real force for the towns and villages around Gaza! We won't make the same mistake twice. As soon as the "war" is over. When is that? Who knows. --->

5/ That is a typical Israeli progression at the moment. Passionately swept up in tactics, always in possession of various in-house straw men, in complete denial of the very possibility of a future. This is Hamas' fault/ Netanyahu's fault/ the settlers' fault. Not ours. --->

6/ Israelis fight in Gaza to defend a leadership and a government many view as corrupt. But this is actually useful, because as long as it is about "them" (Hamas, Netanyahu, settlers), it isn't about "us". "We" are, at best, reluctant. This doesn't being us joy. --->

7/ This is the systemic evil. It isn't the wicked government (which is wicked indeed). It isn't rhe settlers. It isn't the ultra-orthodox. It isn't even Hamas. It's us. We devoted our lives to the basic fallacy, that democracy can sustain and be sustained by its opposite. --->

8/ We talked about "justice" with the same breath that denied justice to millions. We were a light unto the gentiles just as we institutionalized our supremacy over the Palestinians and everyone else. We upheld a paradox. Now we are a hollow, brittle shell.

@ori_goldberg

AhNowTed · 30/05/2024 10:17

Sorry didn't mean to strike anything. Bloody app.

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 11:02

Thank you @AhNowTed interesting read

ScrollingLeaves · 30/05/2024 12:22

Auvergne63 · 30/05/2024 10:01

You won't get an answer I am afraid.

They sometimes seem to say this is an existential war, and war is brutal. Look at Dresden. Etc

Tienne · 30/05/2024 20:30

ScrollingLeaves · 30/05/2024 12:22

They sometimes seem to say this is an existential war, and war is brutal. Look at Dresden. Etc

Dresden would a war crime under the Geneva Conventions agreed after WW2

as would Hiroshima and all indiscriminant bombing of population centres

this probably will be deemed genocide : "Where's Daddy"
https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza

The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza

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PeasfullPerson · 30/05/2024 21:55

I do not consent to dehumanisation.

anotherlevel · 05/06/2024 13:20

This just made me cry.

The father and 2 brothers of 18 month old Ahmed Al-Najjer speak about him and the day he was tragically murdered by the Israeli government.

www.instagram.com/reel/C71DXfzNAzs/?igsh=MTc0Z3F5c3hrb2Nzcw==

ScrollingLeaves · 05/06/2024 13:52

anotherlevel · 05/06/2024 13:20

This just made me cry.

The father and 2 brothers of 18 month old Ahmed Al-Najjer speak about him and the day he was tragically murdered by the Israeli government.

www.instagram.com/reel/C71DXfzNAzs/?igsh=MTc0Z3F5c3hrb2Nzcw==

Yes, people seem to forget that, just because a button is pressed from a distance and there are no hands on the bodies, it does not mean that the IDF and their bombs are not decapitators, de-limbers, and burners of Palestinians and their children by the thousands.

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