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keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 12:56

Don't get excited, not going to happen to Netanyahu

No way is any country's police force going to take the diplomatic risk of arresting a political leader accused of war crimes or genocide. Especially one that is a European and USA ally.

Hopefully they will get the Hamas guys.

TakeMe2Insanity · 20/05/2024 13:20

Fantastic news. Hopefully they’ll get Netanyahu before the Gazans are killed off.

Limesodaagain · 20/05/2024 13:30

I think this would be a good thing for the region if it were possible.

keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 13:38

TakeMe2Insanity · 20/05/2024 13:20

Fantastic news. Hopefully they’ll get Netanyahu before the Gazans are killed off.

No chance mate. Your hopes will be dashed.

Very notable that you did not mention getting the Hamas leaders. Tells us everything.

TokyoSushi · 20/05/2024 13:43

I saw this, I don't think that anything will actually happen though will it?

Efacsen · 20/05/2024 13:51

TokyoSushi · 20/05/2024 13:43

I saw this, I don't think that anything will actually happen though will it?

Not convinced that it will change much either

Sinwar and el-Deif are unlikely to survive long enough to be arrested

Hanief has been under some kind of terrorist no-fly injunction since the Bush era

Netanyahu and Gallant might experience some restriction in their holiday destinations

catlovingdoctor · 20/05/2024 13:52

I think it's very good for the public significance- that even a world leader can in theory be brought to justice. Sadly it won't materialise as him being arrested and tried, but it's refreshing to see.

Also good to see the same against the Hamas leadership.

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 13:53

Putin’s had an arrest warrant out for him for over a year so you can see how effective they are.

keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 13:55

It is another international body that’s become too woke for its own good. Charge Hamas - but the Israeli prime minister and defence minister for only protecting their country from a possible existential threat? This has gone too far and I hope Israel ignores it.

keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 13:55

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 13:53

Putin’s had an arrest warrant out for him for over a year so you can see how effective they are.

YUP

From the DT:

"Will Benjamin Netanyahu be arrested?The ICC has issued 42 arrest warrants since it was founded in 2002, but only 21 suspects have been taken into custody, writes Tony Diver.
The court relies on police forces of other countries to fulfil the warrants, and other countries are often hesitant to take the diplomatic risk of arresting a political leader accused of war crimes or genocide.
The ICC currently has 17 ongoing investigations, and has convicted a total of 10 suspects since it was founded. Four have been acquitted.
The majority of the investigations are linked to war crimes in Africa, although the court has diversified its investigations in recent years and is now conducting inquiries based on events in Asia, Europe, the Middle East and South America.
In 2020, Donald Trump imposed sanctions on members of the ICC staff, after it was revealed the committee was investigating American troops for alleged war crimes in Afghanistan."

Efacsen · 20/05/2024 13:59

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 13:53

Putin’s had an arrest warrant out for him for over a year so you can see how effective they are.

It apparently stopped him going to some conference/meeting in South Africa but yes highly unlikely to see him in handcuffs any time soon

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 20/05/2024 14:00

How about the Hams leaders that organsied the hideous attacs on 7th Oct??

Its a pointless exercise, IMO

AdamRyan · 20/05/2024 14:02

Very happy to see this today - on both sides.

I wonder what the US/UK will do in policy terms in response. As well as Iran.

EasternStandard · 20/05/2024 14:03

I’m not convinced much will happen but has there been a similar warrant issued for Hamas leaders?

Dulra · 20/05/2024 14:08

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 13:53

Putin’s had an arrest warrant out for him for over a year so you can see how effective they are.

Still being lumped in with Putin and the leader of Hamas isn't a good look

Dulra · 20/05/2024 14:09

Good to see the US politicians threats didn't succeed

Scirocco · 20/05/2024 14:16

It would be nice to see all of them face justice for their crimes.

What we'll likely see is rich men continuing to hide behind their friends while other people's children die for their hate.

AdamRyan · 20/05/2024 14:17

Dulra · 20/05/2024 14:08

Still being lumped in with Putin and the leader of Hamas isn't a good look

Putin/Orban/Netanyahu/Trump all cut very much from the same cloth. Also including our own cut price version, Nigel Farage, but luckily we haven't been stupid enough to elect him....yet

Scirocco · 20/05/2024 14:18

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 20/05/2024 14:00

How about the Hams leaders that organsied the hideous attacs on 7th Oct??

Its a pointless exercise, IMO

In the thread title and the link.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 20/05/2024 14:28

Scirocco · 20/05/2024 14:18

In the thread title and the link.

Apologies!! Thanks.

TheFirmBiscuit · 20/05/2024 14:32

While the International Criminal Court (ICC) has jurisdiction over individuals accused of genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and aggression, its authority is primarily over states that are parties to the Rome Statute (signatories). If a finding is made against the head of state of a non-signatory country, the obligations of signatory states are somewhat complex and nuanced:

  1. Cooperation with the ICC:

Arrest and Surrender: If the accused head of state enters the territory of a signatory state, they are obligated to arrest and surrender the individual to the ICC, regardless of their official status. This is a key principle of the Rome Statute, ensuring that no one is above the law.

There are 124 countries that are signatories. The one's that aren't are ;

United States: The U.S. signed the Rome Statute in 2000 but later unsigned it in 2002.
China: China has neither signed nor ratified the Rome Statute.
Russia: Russia signed the Rome Statute in 2000 but never ratified it. In 2016, it withdrew its signature.
India: India has neither signed nor ratified the Rome Statute.
Israel: Israel signed the Rome Statute in 2000 but never ratified it.
Iran: Iran has neither signed nor ratified the Rome Statute.
Turkey: Turkey has neither signed nor ratified the Rome Statute.
Ukraine: Ukraine signed the Rome Statute in 2000 but has not yet ratified it.

OhMaria2 · 20/05/2024 14:33

keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 13:38

No chance mate. Your hopes will be dashed.

Very notable that you did not mention getting the Hamas leaders. Tells us everything.

Everything like terrorism is bad but not as bad as genocide, ethnic cleansing and forced famines?

TakeMe2Insanity · 20/05/2024 15:34

keenforhelp · 20/05/2024 13:38

No chance mate. Your hopes will be dashed.

Very notable that you did not mention getting the Hamas leaders. Tells us everything.

No it doesn’t.

The majority of the Israeli population are living in relative safety and security compared to the majority of the Gazan population. I’m not talking about feeling under threat I am talking about immediate risk to life.

Auvergne63 · 20/05/2024 16:12

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gloriagloria · 20/05/2024 16:21

I agree that nothing will happen to him, but it is sending a powerful message and making it more difficult for allies (and the public) to carry on supporting the Israeli government's actions.

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