Admitting Gazan refugees would be proof that Britain has a death wish

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Camilla Tominey in the Telegraph today.
The sheer level of hatred in this article horrifies me. Am I wrong to feel so shocked by this?

I was and it’s less racist now. Considerably.

However we have a lot more people publicising all sorts of intolerant crap and a narrative of racism than ever we did.

Total rubbish and you know it

The real reason Egypt that is right next door won't let them is is because like all of the other Arab nations, they fear destabilisation from the Hamas clowns and their proxies and that is a fact

Yes of course.
Hamas have been clear their issue is with Israel and not with Jewish people.

Gazan =/= Hamas in any case. Most Muslims view Jewish people and Christians as part of their religion.

I can't see any reason British Jewish people would be more at risk from refugees than anyone else.

Again, I think the current situation in Gaza is causing British Jewish people to be less safe because many people find the actions of the Israeli government unacceptable so that embolden anti semites.

Jews and Palestinians have been displaced and persecuted in that area for generations. All the rhetoric forgets about the Jewish people also displaced in the same upheaval.

This is not the David and Goliath story it may superficially appear. There’s might lined up on all sides. Some of that might has chosen to put Gaza’s people in the firing line.

Gosh, where to start with this.

1. Jews are indigenous to the Holy Land historically.
2. In more recent history a large proportion of Jews in Israel moved there from Middle Eastern countries where they were persecuted. You can find stats online.
3. We, by whom I supppse you mean the British were obviously a factor in the creation of the state of Israel. Its a weird tendency of the anticolonialiat left to infantilise 'other' people as having no agency & suggest the Brits were the only people with any agency. Perhaps you might want to read up a little more on the reasons why the State of Israel was created. See point 2. Also perhaps the Nazis have a walk-on part.
4. A bit of reading about the role of Egypt over the years might be useful.
5. Gaza is not occupied. Israel left. Hamas took over.
6. Gaza is not defenceless, or at least didn't have to be.Hamas is very wealthy & built a network of tunnels & military capability which has regularly attacked Israel & Jews over the years particularly rocket, drone & terror attacks. Hamas is supported by Iran & other terror groups. It was Hamas's decision to launch an act of war against Israel with no preparations for protecting its population. Israel has created the Iron dome & a network of alerts, safe rooms etc to keep its population safe.
7. We supply less than 1% of Israel's arms.
8. We have offered Palestinians asylum over the years.

💯 agree

Why?

And are you saying that if the U.K. did it that unlike Ukrainians they could not return?

I agree with much of this.

I also think those advocating for refugees from Gaza in the UK are people whose compassion stops traveling when it reaches the door of British Jews.

So what's your answer Marjorie? Leave people starving to death in a war zone until Netanyahu decides he's "eradicated Hamas" and hope that not too many die? Have you looked at any photos of the children living in famine conditions?

You said many things change in 50 years in response to PP, so it sounded like you knew what it used to be like in the 70s.

We really are at the just saying stuff stage of the proceedings now. Pure invention.

The answer to my question was yes, it is just start typing stuff and see what comes out day.

Nothing in the Torygraph ever shocks me.

It seems some are attempting to manufacture consent for something. Let them all die and don't worry about it as the entire ethnic group is savage, prone to terrorism, hated by everyone and thinks as one? Don't even save the children. And so atrocities against groups are perpetuated.

At least Starmer doesn’t make jokes about the way Muslim women look or dress…. At least Labour don't openly call anyone who marches in support of a ceasefire “hateful”. Fwiw I don’t think Labour are islamaphobic, but I do think Starmer has been incredibly weak on the Gaza situation. And that has hurt a lot of Labour supporters. I really hope he realises that and regrets it.

@AdamRyan
Hamas have been clear their issue is with Israel and not with Jewish people.

Are you kidding?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

Blimey at that

I do think the shouts of racism and accusations of hatred and callousness actually inflame the problem rather than resolving it.

It creates the issue it claims to hate.

I agree with you and @GeneralPeter particularly on reading pp

This is one of the most bizarre posts I have read on these threads. You are literally just making things up. There is no factual basis for anything you have said but, just for fun, plesse point us to the evidence for, say, where Hamas have made it clear that their issue is with Israel, not Jews.

It’s really not funny now, actually. The denial and minimisation is pretty offensive.

I know, right? Next level gaslighting.

Its grotesque gaslighting. Nobody can be this stupid, surely.

Hmm yes.

Re. The recently foiled planned terrorist attack in the Jewish area of Manchester, I'm sure before blowing anyone up or knifing anyone, these reasonable young men would have checked their victims' stance on Israeli government policy first; just, you know, to be sure 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️.