Admitting Gazan refugees would be proof that Britain has a death wish

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Camilla Tominey in the Telegraph today.
The sheer level of hatred in this article horrifies me. Am I wrong to feel so shocked by this?

@Dulra

Not just all mainstream media on TV and print, but the dozens of aid agencies on the ground. Oh and the UN of course.

That's some manipulation!

I would put an emoji but none of this is a laughing matter.

@ButtonxMoon I think they're living pretty "safely" when compared to what they're inflicting on their neighbours.

You have to be joking ? Parts of Israel are under fire every day.

Since October 8th, Hezbollah has maintained a threshold of violence at a level it deems will divert resources away from Gaza to the northern front, but stopping short of necessitating an immediate Israeli ground offensive.In that time

Hezbollah has attacked Israeli military bases and civilian communities close to the Lebanese border on a near daily basis, launching over 3,300 drone, rockets, and anti-tank guided missile (ATGMs) strikes.
Nine Israeli civilians, and eleven soldiers have been killed with approximately 80,000 civilians internally displaced and forced to relocate to hotels in safer parts of the country.
While Israel has carried out a similar number of counter-strikes against Hezbollah targets.
Hezbollah has sought to maintain a series of observation posts keeping northern Israeli communities and military basis under permanent surveillance. ATGMs are regularly fired at civilian workers, vehicles, and homes as well as military targets.

Hamas fired mortar shells in two separate attacks at the area of the floating pier. Moreover, following the re-opening of the Kerem Shalom crossing for humanitarian aid, missiles were launched from the area of Rafah toward the Crossing injuring a soldier. (9 May)

As a clear sign of Hamas’s remaining capabilities, they have fired over 20 rockets in the last 24 hours aimed towards Sderot Ashkelon and Beer Sheva. Most were intercepted or landed in open areas, but one rocket directly struck a building in Ashkelon, slightly wounding three people and causing extensive damage to an apartment.
At least five more rockets were fired from Rafah at the humanitarian aid crossing at Kerem Shalom, all of which were either intercepted or landed in open areas. (13 May)

Northern front: Once more, throughout Tuesday, alarms were sounded as several anti-tank missiles were launched into northern Israel.Since then, over 100 rockets have been fired towards Israel. (15 May)

Hezbollah’s attack in the Lower Galilee represents the latest sign of the escalation of the conflict on Israel’s northern front. An attack on a site 35 kilometres from the Lebanese border, and on an installation which is designed to spot aerial threats from long ranges represents Hezbollah striking deeper into Israel on a sensitive site.

As well as this incident of long-range fire, short-range fire persists, with over 40 rockets fired at the northern Golan this morning. (16 May)

Jesus how they're not ruling the world is a mystery

Why don't the rich Arab countries offer sanctuary

You were trying to make me question my own sanity. You were trying to make he think I was just being paranoid. You were gaslighting me, just not very well.

I believe that Hamas manipulates data and events before informing MSM. Palestinian leaders have been doing it for decades, like with the "massacre in Jenin".

There's evidence it wasn't a misfired rocket from Gaza from several sources. I read Dr Ghassan's testimony on this, as he was working in the hospital at the time of the attack. He didn't believe it was caused by Hamas & had several reasons why.

Thank you for setting the record a bit straighter. It amazes me how little people understand about (ir don't want to see) what is going on.

I mean, Al Jazeera live-streamed it as it was happening and said something about it coming from within Gaza, and then the video magically disappeared from their website.

SharonEllis, I have a genuine question for you. Where do you want Palestinians to live?

I mean, there's no way you missed the fact that even the UN have this week had to accept that the casualty figures coming from Hamas are probably not accurate when it comes to the amount of women and children who have been killed.

Didn't the Idf initially say it was them & then backtracked? I seem to remember the recordings were spliced together.
I'm sure Hamas have given their version of the truth at times, but the Idf have lied very obviously through to their back teeth. They also seem to think that if they repeat a lie often enough it becomes true .

This is all getting a bit gross now, people so adamant that Hamas don't lie and manipulate. They even told the world that a hostage was dead, and then released her a couple of days later!

Humdingerydoo, would you accept that the IDF lie and manipulate too?

I responded to one of your posts I didn't manipulate you into believing anything or question your sanity. I find throwing around the word gaslighting pretty minimising to those that are and have been gaslighted.

I believe that Hamas manipulates data and events before informing MSM.
Yes you believe that doesn't mean it's true and I believe it isn't. I would like to believe our investigative journalists aren't as easily manipulated

No, I believe that's just you making shit up 👍🏻

"Their version of the truth" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Hamas get the benefit of the doubt but IDF have lied through to their back teeth. Do you even realise how crazy it is that you're calling it their version of the truth?? It's called a lie!

Absolutely fucking brilliant.

Yes, probably. Why? How does that change the fact that people are actively denying that Hamas, a terrorist organisation, do so?

I provided examples. It's not my fault you've chosen not to look at them.

denying that Hamas, a terrorist organisation, do so?

I'm denying the msm fall for it

So explain the hospital thing that various news outlets had to apologise for?

I did look at them and I do not believe the news sources I rely on are manipulated as you suggest. I can't comment on social media because I'm not on it. I refer to BBC verify a lot and I trust it

Humdingerydoo, I think it’s more shocking that the IDF do, they have all the powerful weapons supplied by the west and an army

@Humdingerydoo

"I mean, there's no way you missed the fact that even the UN have this week had to accept that the casualty figures coming from Hamas are probably not accurate when it comes to the amount of women and children who have been killed."

Yes I saw that. Just to clarify the total toll remained almost unchanged at almost 35,000. What changed was the % of women and children. Down from 69% to 52%.

I believe in a 2-state solution with a Palestinian state alongside the State of Israel. Where do you believe Palestinians & Israelis should live?

Yes, that's exactly what I said - they lied about how many were children and women. Someone earlier on this thread said 14000 children which is what Hamas have been saying. I've attached the updated figures from yesterday. So they've been lying and manipulating people and MSM who have all been reporting 14000 children for months.

Point is that I'm really not imagining it and it is based in reality and not paranoia.

Not sure what this has to do with potential refugees from Gaza but oh well!