Heartbreaking 😢

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Just heartbroken watching this. When will their suffering cease?

Finally seeing the world acknowledging what has been said by many for awhile now. Israel is deliberately starving the Gazans as collective punishment. The limitations on the little aid that is even being allowed in is ridiculous beyond belief, with many essential items including anesthetic banned as it comes under 'dual use' this is a deliberately orchestrated man made disaster.

You need to show me the quotes you are referring to because I have no idea what you are referring to. I was referring to IDF when I said they were killing children I also asked where a poster had said people were celebrating the deaths of children they pointed it out to me and I thanked them. Why are you carrying on with this?

I was really pleased to wake up to this. The tide is turning. But what will it take for the UK to stand up and be counted, in denouncing this genocide? I fear that the USA will never do this and that the UK's government, once again, is nothing more than the USA's puppet. Shame on them!

Israel is an acceptable political football because they're small enough and vulnerable enough.

Nonsense. Small, yes. Vulnerable, no. It is a rich, very well-armed and well-protected country, which had the unequivocal backing of the majority of nations with regard to the 7/10 atrocities, including that of the richest and most powerful nation in the world. Until they overstepped boundaries which even the USA couldn’t stomach. And that’s entirely on Israel.

I wonder if that poster thinks Israel an occupying power with a military that ranks 4th in the world is 'vulnerable' what do they think the occupied Palestinian territories without an army, navy or airforce are?

I can’t reason with such disingenuity so best to leave it there.

@quantumbutterfly

Israel is an acceptable political football because they're small enough and vulnerable enough.

If Israel, well funded and with the IDF operating, is vulnerable, how would you describe Palestine?

No land army, air force or navy. No airports. No sea ports. A population being starved to death. More than 30,000 Palestinians killed. Half of that number children. More than 70,000 injured many critically. Thousands more missing presumed dead having been trapped under rubble.

How would you describe them when it comes to vulnerability? Especially the children?

Palestine? Or Gaza.

What area are you talking about when you say Palestine?

I cut and pasted all my comments linked to the conversation for you, no idea how that can be described as disingenuous. But yes best to leave it because I am obviously not understanding exactly what I am meant to have done

The UK does not occupy France. France is a recognised nation state, with citizens who have freedom of movement. France is not under blockade... I could go on, but there is really no comparison between France and Gaza.

'The number of children reported killed in just over 4 months in Gaza is higher than the number of children killed in 4 years of wars around the world combined.' Phillipe Lazarini, Guardian today.

If the current kill rate continues, who will be left? Can anyone condone the killing of even one child, let alone thousands?

No one. The Palestinian people will have been erased. Shocking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

Has the state of Jordan been wiped off the face of the earth then? Because there are approximately 3 million Palestinians living there.

I should have said in Gaza. Thanks for the correction.

How about the c.2 million Palestinians currently living in Israel?

Your replies are implying you're ok with Gazans in Gaza bring wiped out because there are Gazans in Israel and Jordan. If that's not what you mean you might want to make that clear so people don't think you are ok with 2 million people being killed

I'm not ok with any of it. I'm not a fan of hyperbole, it helps no one.

Yet you sent two goady replies to a poster which is what I was referencing

I posted 2 factual statements with data as a response to a goady comment.

@Lookatmeivechangedmyname what do you think, then, about what's happening in Gaza? As someone who has lost people in this conflict, your posts have come across to me as not necessarily being concerned about the loss of life in Gaza and kind of suggesting people in Gaza deserved this somehow?

Just because something is factual doesn't mean it isn't goady to post it and your comments that went with the facts definitely were goady and inappropriate

@Lookatmeivechangedmyname and what was goady about the comment you were responding to?

I agree, but do you honestly think Hamas will be completely obliterated after all this? No of course they won't, there'll be hundreds of fatherless children left behind with a deep hatred for Israel for murdering their families who in a few years time will be more than happy to take revenge, war breeds hatred that's all it does, nothing will be learnt from this..

That poster seems to think that that would be a reasonable reaction though? Palestinians have seen their babies murdered in the 1000s, they are being starved, people are being tortured, people are being sexually assaulted. If she thinks Israels reaction is a logical one then surely she agrees that a Palestinian reaction to their whole region being destroyed, 30,000 people being killed and being purposefully deprived of food, water, medication and healthcare would be equally understandable.

I'm sure she thinks some reaction to the years of occupation, the years of children being taken from their beds by the IDF and detained, the years of reported abuse and sexual assault these children went through, the years of children being murdered at their school desks and playing on the beach is completely understandable as well.

To rationalise some violence is to rationalise all violence. You can't pick and choose who is allowed to 'over react' to violence and oppression.