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Lockpeopleinrooms · 12/03/2024 20:30

And tying knots in language is nothing like saying you’re tying yourself in knots.

SplitFountainPen · 12/03/2024 20:32

WhenIsaywhoaimeanwhoa · 12/03/2024 09:46

Just heartbroken watching this. When will their suffering cease?

Is jihad a commonly given name?
I thought that only had the negative meaning
If that's not posed then it's terrifying how easily he speaks to a stranger after initially being reluctant. Hopefully it is posed by a family member.
Poor boy looks exhausted.

Dulra · 12/03/2024 20:32

Lockpeopleinrooms · 12/03/2024 20:30

And tying knots in language is nothing like saying you’re tying yourself in knots.

Apologies I stand corrected

FOJN · 12/03/2024 20:33

crowstreet · 12/03/2024 20:23

The way to end it to release the hostages. I doubt Sinwar and his cronies are going hungry.

I suspect you are correct which makes me wonder why Israel is starving the civilian population.

Collective punishment is a crime.

WhenIsaywhoaimeanwhoa · 12/03/2024 20:36

SplitFountainPen · 12/03/2024 20:32

Is jihad a commonly given name?
I thought that only had the negative meaning
If that's not posed then it's terrifying how easily he speaks to a stranger after initially being reluctant. Hopefully it is posed by a family member.
Poor boy looks exhausted.

Jihad is a name - meaning of which is struggle/one who strives

it has been falsely translated as war over the years

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EasterIssland · 12/03/2024 20:40

crowstreet · 12/03/2024 20:23

The way to end it to release the hostages. I doubt Sinwar and his cronies are going hungry.

Even Israel has said that releasing the hostages won’t stop them

Lookatmeivechangedmyname · 12/03/2024 20:44

WhenIsaywhoaimeanwhoa · 12/03/2024 20:36

Jihad is a name - meaning of which is struggle/one who strives

it has been falsely translated as war over the years

Falsely interpreted by fanatical radicalist followers of islam. Whatever the original meaning may have been the bastardised version is now the mainstream understanding.

Scirocco · 12/03/2024 21:07

SplitFountainPen · 12/03/2024 20:32

Is jihad a commonly given name?
I thought that only had the negative meaning
If that's not posed then it's terrifying how easily he speaks to a stranger after initially being reluctant. Hopefully it is posed by a family member.
Poor boy looks exhausted.

Jihad is an Arabic word and a (usually boys') name, meaning to strive and do one's utmost.

It comes from the root word 'jahada', which means to exert strength and effort.

As a concept in Islam, there are a couple of ways to understand it (please be aware, I'm not a qualified scholar, and Allah knows best).

One is to consider the Greater Jihad and the Lesser Jihad. The Greater Jihad is a person's efforts to live a good life, to strive to avoid sinful/wrong acts and to treat others well. The Lesser Jihad is that of fighting to defend and safeguard the Ummah (the wider Muslim community) and other innocent people from direct threats of harm (eg to defend a country against aggressors in an act of self-defence).

Another way is to consider the four kinds of struggle in the name/cause of God: jihad of the heart (working to be a good-hearted person with good intentions), jihad of the tongue (trying to speak truthfully and kindly, rather than to spread lies or cruelty), jihad of the hand (striving to act justly and avoid doing wrongful acts), and jihad of the sword (fighting to defend those in harm's way).

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 12/03/2024 21:14

The first child in the video is working to feed his father (and brothers and/or sisters according to the audio or translation). Where is his father then? Why isn’t he helping? It doesn’t mention in the video that he’s sick or disabled.

Maybe he’s looking after the kids?

As horrific as this war is, the children in Gaza should be looking to their Government, and the majority of adults who support them, as to why they are living in hell instead of in peace.

Also considering the billions of aid poured into Gaza over the years, why they and their families were living in poverty instead of carefree prosperity.

EasterIssland · 12/03/2024 21:21

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 12/03/2024 21:14

The first child in the video is working to feed his father (and brothers and/or sisters according to the audio or translation). Where is his father then? Why isn’t he helping? It doesn’t mention in the video that he’s sick or disabled.

Maybe he’s looking after the kids?

As horrific as this war is, the children in Gaza should be looking to their Government, and the majority of adults who support them, as to why they are living in hell instead of in peace.

Also considering the billions of aid poured into Gaza over the years, why they and their families were living in poverty instead of carefree prosperity.

7 wars since 2005 in Palestine. How do you build a country that is constantly at war ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_State_of_Palestine

ps in case you’re not aware before oct 2023 Palestinians had schools, universities , hospitals etc probably built with aid money. They also had an organisation that was helping them with the food. Do you think all this is free? I’m more curious as why does Israel need billions every year from US to be honest. Probably that money would be better spent on more poorer countries than in Israel

List of wars involving the State of Palestine - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_State_of_Palestine

Scirocco · 12/03/2024 21:34

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 12/03/2024 21:14

The first child in the video is working to feed his father (and brothers and/or sisters according to the audio or translation). Where is his father then? Why isn’t he helping? It doesn’t mention in the video that he’s sick or disabled.

Maybe he’s looking after the kids?

As horrific as this war is, the children in Gaza should be looking to their Government, and the majority of adults who support them, as to why they are living in hell instead of in peace.

Also considering the billions of aid poured into Gaza over the years, why they and their families were living in poverty instead of carefree prosperity.

Prior to this conflict, Gaza had hospitals, universities, infrastructure, one of the highest population literacy rates in the Middle East (for males and females)... And that was despite crippling sanctions and repeated destruction. Whole areas were razed to the ground in occupation and conflict and then rebuilt by the survivors.

His father may well be injured and unable to join him. Many people have been severely injured due to bombing, gunshots, building collapses, etc.

Dulra · 12/03/2024 21:47

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 12/03/2024 21:14

The first child in the video is working to feed his father (and brothers and/or sisters according to the audio or translation). Where is his father then? Why isn’t he helping? It doesn’t mention in the video that he’s sick or disabled.

Maybe he’s looking after the kids?

As horrific as this war is, the children in Gaza should be looking to their Government, and the majority of adults who support them, as to why they are living in hell instead of in peace.

Also considering the billions of aid poured into Gaza over the years, why they and their families were living in poverty instead of carefree prosperity.

Also considering the billions of aid poured into Gaza over the years, why they and their families were living in poverty instead of carefree prosperity.
The WHO said that prior to October 2023 less then 1% of children in Palestine were malnourished and now it stands at 50% so in 5 months 50% of children who were healthy and well fed are now starving to death.
It is also extremely difficult to prosper when Israel controls your borders, your ability to leave, continually bombs your infrastructure and controls your imports and exports.
I find it amazing that you can watch a video of a child suffering in this way and make those kind of insensitive inaccurate statements the lack of empathy is chilling to be honest.

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 13/03/2024 00:23

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/how-gaza-went-from-desperately-poor-to-even-poorer-and-why-thats-important-to-the-current-war-12992403

It is also extremely difficult to prosper when Israel controls your borders, your ability to leave, continually bombs your infrastructure and controls your imports and exports.

Hmm but why is that? Nothing to do with a terrorist group, with an ideology to destroy Israel and kill Jews, being elected to run the country was it? Nothing to do with constant rocket attacks from Gaza, suicide bombings, kidnappings and stabbings?

It is fucking heartbreaking that Palestinian kids have to suffer for the hatred and stupidity of their elders. That’s a fact.

How Gaza went from desperately poor to even poorer - and why that's important to the current war

Even before the latest conflict, Gaza was a desperately poor place. While economics cannot explain all of what is happening, factors like unemployment and poverty are still a key part of the background to the current instability in the region.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/how-gaza-went-from-desperately-poor-to-even-poorer-and-why-thats-important-to-the-current-war-12992403

Dulra · 13/03/2024 07:21

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 13/03/2024 00:23

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/how-gaza-went-from-desperately-poor-to-even-poorer-and-why-thats-important-to-the-current-war-12992403

It is also extremely difficult to prosper when Israel controls your borders, your ability to leave, continually bombs your infrastructure and controls your imports and exports.

Hmm but why is that? Nothing to do with a terrorist group, with an ideology to destroy Israel and kill Jews, being elected to run the country was it? Nothing to do with constant rocket attacks from Gaza, suicide bombings, kidnappings and stabbings?

It is fucking heartbreaking that Palestinian kids have to suffer for the hatred and stupidity of their elders. That’s a fact.

No one is saying Hamas have been good for Palestine but you can't erase Israel's role in all of this. Israel were occupying, murdering controlling Palestine long before Hamas. Isreal are currently killing, maiming and starving the entire population of Gaza of which children are a high percentage. With the combination of Hamas and Israel the Gazans do not stand a chance. You can continue to deny Israel has any part in this but thankfully the majority of people outside Israel can see exactly what Israel is doing and will hopefully hold them to account

Nads0622 · 13/03/2024 07:24

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marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/03/2024 07:25

The EU says that starvation is being used as a weapon of war by Israel.

quantumbutterfly · 13/03/2024 08:02

There’s a reason why the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other country

more than against Russia and China or Saudi Arabia, you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?

EasterIssland · 13/03/2024 08:06

quantumbutterfly · 13/03/2024 08:02

There’s a reason why the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other country

more than against Russia and China or Saudi Arabia, you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?

UN condemned Israel more than all other countries combined in 2022 — monitor

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-condemned-israel-more-than-all-other-countries-combined-in-2022-monitor/amp/

EasterIssland · 13/03/2024 08:06

quantumbutterfly · 13/03/2024 08:02

There’s a reason why the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other country

more than against Russia and China or Saudi Arabia, you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?

2023 UNGA Resolutions on Israel: 15
• 2023 UNGA Resolutions on Rest of the World:7
https://unwatch.org/2023-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-of-the-world/

2023 UNGA Resolutions on Israel vs. Rest of the World - UN Watch

• 2023 UNGA Resolutions on Israel: 15 • 2023 UNGA Resolutions on Rest of the World: 7 In 2023, EU member states voted for one resolution each on the human rights situations in Iran, Syria, North Korea, Myanmar, Crimea, the U.S. for its embargo on Cuba,...

https://unwatch.org/2023-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-of-the-world/

EasterIssland · 13/03/2024 08:07

quantumbutterfly · 13/03/2024 08:02

There’s a reason why the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other country

more than against Russia and China or Saudi Arabia, you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?

Israel most condemned by UN in 2020 – three times other nations
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/12/24/un-condemns-israel-most-in-2020-almost-three-times-rest-of-world

Israel most condemned by UN in 2020 – three times other nations

The UNGA adopted 17 resolutions against Israel this year, compared with six for the rest of the world.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/12/24/un-condemns-israel-most-in-2020-almost-three-times-rest-of-world

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 13/03/2024 08:08

TW post:

I've just seen a social media post uploaded by an Israeli soldier - while he narrates the scenery in the sunset there is a horrific desecration of a Palestinian body going on in the foreground. I don't want to describe it here as I can't believe what I've just seen and that a soldier would feel so secure in the world's absolute inaction and tacit consent for this to happen. It's so obscene I can't unsee it.

Lookatmeivechangedmyname · 13/03/2024 08:09

No one is celebrating deaths of children. Hyperbole never helped anyone.

Dulra · 13/03/2024 08:12

Lookatmeivechangedmyname · 13/03/2024 08:09

No one is celebrating deaths of children. Hyperbole never helped anyone.

Where has someone said they were?

They may not be celebrating it but they sure as hell are not doing anything to prevent their deaths or safeguard them

Dulra · 13/03/2024 08:16

quantumbutterfly · 13/03/2024 08:02

There’s a reason why the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other country

more than against Russia and China or Saudi Arabia, you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?

you're saying Israel is the worst country in the world? Seriously?
That's your words, that is not what the poster said they were highlighting the fact that Israel has more resolutions against them then anyone else. Not sure why this would be a surprise to you when it is clear for all to see how Israel treat their occupied territories and the people in them