Israeli Eurovision: how low can you go?

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Israeli entry in Eurovision song contest is likely to be a song called 'October Rain' sung by trans-identifying 'Eden 'Golan'.

My previous thread was deleted for pointing this out.

I agree. Absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
Likewise there is absolutely no excuse from what Israel is doing
in Gaza and the number of people killed.

Yep. This view is everywhere.

You really need to stop making things up. You know nothing about my views on the value of Palestinian lives. You also cant just move the goalposts. You said Hamas wants a 2-state solution. This senior Hamas official has not to my knowledge been disowned by Hamas - everything we know about Hamas currently suggests they don't. The only reason Hamas dont currently have the means to wipe Israel off the map is because Israel's defensive capability is currently greater and Iran isn't getting directly involved. The intent is clear - what do you think all those tunnels are for? Certainly not to protect Palestinian civilians

But a lot of the time people who hate Muslims aren't exactly big fans of Jews either 🙃 So do you think the other poster was trying to basically imply that the opposite to Muslim is Jew? If you hate one you love the other? Again, that's very much not my experience.

But also, let's not pretend it hasn't been politicised and full of tactical voting every single other year.

@Scirocco I can confirm same thing is happening in Spain. Many far right accounts posting they’re going to vote for Israel despite not watching it in order to (insert ordinary word) to the pro Palestinians.

it’s true what happens in Eurovision won’t change what happens in Gaza. But I’m glad that many countries in Europe are using their voices to speak against what is happening in Gaza. For the pro Palestinians being in the minority… many people are speaking against what Israel is doing in Gaza

For some people I think they pick who they hate most at a point in time and go with that until it's someone else's turn to be the most hated.

Islam and Judaism have a lot in common. There should be more that unites us than divides us.

Eurovision has always been influenced by politics, but it seems to have reached new lows this year. Competitors reporting harassment, large numbers of people boycotting and others planning mass votes despite no actual interest in the competition beyond prejudice, threats and intimidation, antisemitism and Islamophobia running rampant... It's disgraceful. The idea that a competitor has had to confine herself to her hotel room and have a huge security presence, because of her nationality and ethnicity, is horrible.

Intent is irrelevant though without the means. Which Hamas thankfully don't have.

The ones who DO have the means are Israel, and they've made similar comments. The Likud party is literally committed to Israel being from the 'river to the sea'. So the ruling partys manifesto is for the destruction of Gaza, they make comments about wanting to destroy Gaza, and are currently making a good job of actually destroying Gaza.

Means + stated intention + large scale death and destruction.

This 💯

What are you talking about? How can intent be irrelevant? Even of they dont have the capability to completely destroy Israel atm Oct 7th shows they will take any opportunity to kill Jews.

as promised. Seen several videos about people booing when Israel was singing.

has this been perceives in the tv ?

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Graham Norton has just advised parents with young children to miss the Ireland song

I wonder how that'll be spun

Intent comes far behind means and actual pattern of behaviour. Hamas has 1, arguably 2, of these (intent and arguably actual pattern). Israel has all 3.

Do you consider the actions of 7/10 genocide? If so, why wouldn't killing 30 times that number of people also be genocide?

The only reason I can think of is that Palestinian lives are worth less than a 30th of Israeli lives to you.

Ireland was absolutely dire. Nothing like a bit of screechy Satan worshipping to lighten the mood. So edgy.

Wasn't it pagan, rather than Satanic?

It's not even just Eden, you should see the hate Tali has been receiving online for being born in Israel. It's all disgraceful.

The bullying online by random people and in person by the other contestants towards Eden though is something quite special 🥴 It's not normal. I'd be so ashamed of my children if they behaved like that towards someone else.

Anyway, she performed. She did very, very well again. No major incidents so far. Long may it continue!

And also, thank you for recognising and acknowledging that none of it is ok.

wanT to know @Dulra opinion. I know they didn’t like the way bambie sung

People can want to do something while at the same time being unable to actually do that thing. Meanwhile, others can want to do something while having the capability to achieve it.

@EasterIssland What's your opinion of Ireland?

Do you understand where the comments came from on one of those odd tweets you posted

Not sure what you mean to be honest so please explain if you want an answer.

Didn't see it! Been on the hunt for an AWOL teenager. Any good?

Bambie had ceasefire written on the face today. Also shouted “love always triumphs hate. “ at the end of their performance

Iolanda from Portugal has a Keffiyeh and other Palestinian symbols on her nails.

Belgium tv

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