Uk politicians position about the war

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I’ve read that in the last few days Starmer is concerned about the Muslim people not voting labour cuz of his position

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

do you think this will have an impact on this years general elections ? I guess whatever they do they’ll lose votes

NI first minister in her opening speech
https://twitter.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1754106237921177648

Only 60% of British Muslims who backed Labour at the 2019 general election are willing to do so again at the next general election expected this year, the survey finds.
Survation, which conducted the poll for the Labour Muslim Network, spoke to 682 Muslims across Great Britain and found that the Green party has attracted 14% of British Muslims and 9% willing to back the Liberal Democrats. More than 20% of Muslim voters remain undecided, giving Labour some hope

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/05/british-muslims-losing-trust-in-labour-over-its-handling-of-israel-gaza-war

I’m not really sure what Labour stand for anymore. The one thing they have going for them is the complete dogs dinner the Tories have made of… well most stuff really.
KS seems to have managed to protect himself from being attacked by them and their media buddies by positioning himself as a non-entity. So I’m a bit perplexed that he would stick his head out about the war in Gaza, in a way that seems so miscalculated.
I keep hoping that something good will come, like you say, a clear strategy and some leadership which is based on core values.. but I don’t know!

Well apparently labour are still figuring it/their "tableau" out.

BBC News - Labour works on plan for power
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68205102

Which is what you would expect, no? No political party works out a manifesto too far in advance of an anticipated election. Too much can change, too many hostages to fortune & too much about the detail that they dont know - they are only just having meetings with the civil service.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-starmer-muslim-voters-poll-election-b2490652.html

So I understand Muslims say they are forming their own Party.

well not long left.
The "tableau" simplified massively yesterday of course.
Let's hope I can see the difference between captains starmer and sunak by the time the spangled election-off show starts.

It’s informative when people start to insult people when they don’t agree with their views. Feels like they’re losing the argument if not their perceived moral high ground.
Why can’t MPs represent concerns of their constituents? Muslim and non Muslim voters have concerns (including Jewish, Hindu, Christians, atheists etc) about what is in Gaza.

The AIPAC plays a role in politics in the US to support Israel. Are you also suggesting this is wrong too?
@sunick

MPs are elected to represent their constituents in Britain.
They do not have constituents in Gaza.

Or in Israel. But government MPs are happy to support Israel's genocide campaign. Or is it OK when it's Israel?

Israel are not committing genocide though Hamas have announced that is their intention.
The UK government supports democratic Israel which was attacked by the terrorist group Hamas on 7.10 and which then fired thousands of rockets into Israel as well as holding, and abusing, over a hundred Israeli hostages.
That's foreign policy based on the UK's position as a country.
Not the result of random MPs seeking to represent people not resident in their constituencies.

This is getting old now. Hamas have not announced their intention is genocide, a fact I only know because I read up on what they had actually said after so many posters quoted them.

They are a terrorist movement, with an ethos of "armed resistance" against Israeli occupation of "Palestine" but have said they would accept a state on 1967 borders.

If Israel would accept a two state solution much of Hamas raison d'etre would evaporate which would remove their influence as a political group.

Lies. This is from a few weeks ago
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/netanyahu-rejects-calls-for-2-state-solution-gaza-will-be-neither-hamastan-nor-fatahstan/

Your lack of concern or compassion for what's happening to the people of Gaza is genuinely chilling.

If you're talking to me, I didn't even see your comment before it was deleted but it must have broken guidelines if someone reported it and it was deleted.

If you don't want people to report your posts, stop breaking the rules 💐

Andrew Feinstein’s thinking of standing as an independent in Starmer’s constituency Holborn and St Pancras. Would make for an interesting election night. Not that I think this is just an ethnic issue, but over 35% are of BAME or mixed heritage.

What do you mean by this?

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24108754.labour-aide-worries-u-turn-leaves-keir-starmer-like-empty-vessel/

Not sure what your link has to do with the topic of the thread …. But if you’re happy to be reported once again for derailment of the thread ….