To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

[Muthaofcats]

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

Do the Israeli text books teach Israelis to kill Palestinians? No- but they do appear to dehumanise and belittle them- the Palestinians? If the study in the Israeli textbooks is correct- and we can see what happens when we dehumanise a population and make them seem “lesser”

Can you tell me what is extreme about my views? Is it my belief that social media echo chambers distort reality? Is it my belief that Israel has a duty to protect its citizens? Is it my belief that the Palestinians are victims of both Israeli aggression and Hamas terror?

There have also been previous investigations by the UN on the teaching provided by UMWRA- as the claims are not new:

Impact-se have done studies in teaching provided by UNWRA and was critical.

UN said:

This latest report parallels these organisations’ previous attempts to sensationalize, overstate and sometimes give misguided conclusions derived from what a credible academic organisation described as methodologies “marked by generalising and exaggerated conclusions based on methodological shortcomings.” This latest report follows the same pattern. It, for example, does not hesitate, without any verification, to portray people who left the organization more than a decade ago as current UNRWA staff.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-statement-on-joint-un-watch-institute-for-monitoring-peace-and-cultural-tolerance-in-school-education-impact-se-report/

How far before.....suicide bombers, continuous rocket attacks, stabbings, car rammings in Israel in the name of intifada.
In UK and abroad ..hatred of Israel by people I met who had no skin in the game other than identifying Palestine as a Muslim 'country' oppressed by invaders from Europe (let's ignore mizrahim) and more recently as a 'white' country.
Targeting of Israelis or Jewish people all over the world in the name of Palestine.
People I knew openly claiming that 9/11 was a Jewish conspiracy days after it happened while we were still in shock that it could happen at all.
Yes Gazan people deserve better, I try to see both sides, do you?

I do find it interesting that I have been accused of extremist views when my problem has always been my inability to get off the fence because I like to see both sides .
I guess I’ve been forced to pick a side . Accusing me of extremism isn’t going to change my mind unless you can provide proper evidence .

Which would not have happened if hamas had not attacked israel and slaughtered 1200 people and kidnapped 240

@Limeandsodaontherocks

You said…
I agree that Israel has done some heinous things. But it is faced with horrific terror groups ( supported by Iran) on practically all sides.
They do have a duty to protect/ defend their citizens. They failed to do this in October 7th and since Hamas has said they will commit other similar atrocities Israel has to do something….
The terrible suffering of the Palestinians is being used and exacerbated by Hamas and others.

It sounds as though you agree the ‘something’ they have done was the correct course of action.

Have you ever wondered why after 75 years gazans are still "refugees" when in that same space of time Israeli refugees from the holocaust have created a thriving state?
4 generations on gazans ARE NOT REFUGEES

@PeasfullPerson I don't recognise your user name or remember seeing it before so my posts wasn't particularly aimed at you 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'd be angry that Hamas hasn't spent their loot on the defences that Israel has. Israel is being constantly bombed by them but their government has spent money to defend their population, rather than hide behind and among them

Excellent point

I also feel there's a tendency to infantilise Palestinians as if they have no agency

Which, in turn, would not have happened if Israel had not systematically and systemically inflicted slaughter, displacement, suppression and ghettoization of the Palestinian people ever since the creation of Israel.

Which, in turn, is very unlikely to have happened if the white, western dominated decision to force a people out of their historic homeland in favour of a people whose only link to that land was an ancient religious dogma.

The Israeli Gaza conflict is a direct result of European colonial arrogance and exceptional ism.

It's a shit show.

So I’m an extremist for saying Israel had to respond ? I do still wonder why Hamas isn’t as horrified by the Palestinians suffering as you and I. If they were the hostages would have been returned and Hamas would be looking to negotiate.
is that an extremist position?

No, a response was required. It is the justification of mass civilian casualties that I find extreme.

I don’t think either Hamas or the Israeli government care enough about the lives of ordinary people.

Neither should be using civilians as pawns.

So I’m not an extremist then - thanks

Why do you think Hamas operate in tunnels? Do you really think that Israel would sit on its hands and watch as Hamas set up defences along the border? Children have been shot playing football along the border, farmer shot while tending to their crops. Your post shows a lack of understanding of the situation. Not to mention how were they going to get these defences into Gaza?

@ProfessorPipsqueak So it's Israel's fault Hamas spent money and resources on tunnels instead of air defence

Got it

How many times has Israel being in war in their land in those 75 years ? Gaza I believe 4-5 since 2005

*been

And kitted them out with arms?

That's where the money is spent