To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

[Muthaofcats]

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

I'm sure your lack of imagination will keep you safe.

I would say that the phrases that you have mentioned are being used due to an increased awareness regarding the entire history.

It isn't simply based on the past few months. This has been a sustained campaign against an entire population which is why the phrases are being applied.

Grooming is quite a serious claim to make.

You must have missed my last sentence...

Well the figures speak for themselves regarding safety. Children regularly attend the marches also. There are always plenty of stewards there. Peaceful marches.

No, I did not. It has been pointed out time and time again that no other aid agencies have the ability to provide aid in the way that they do.

A sustained campaign against the population of Israel indeed.
Thank goodness Jordan and Egypt brokered peace, Jordan even asked Israel for help in dealing with all the wannabe freedom fighters, rebels without a clue.
Syria has it's own internal problems so probably heavily relies on russian support, and it suits Russia to keep the middle east unstable.
Anyway, back to the thread title..

And you know this.....

Well I guess it's hard to find childcare, why else would you march children for a political cause they couldn't possibly understand?

Stuff taught to Israeli kids- from a study of Israeli text books:

Peled-Elhanan’s book was a major study of 17 Israeli school textbooks on history, geography and civic studies. As you can see from what she says in the interview above, she came to some stark conclusions.
When they even mention Palestinians at all, Israel’s official schoolbooks teach a “racist discourse”, which quite literally wipes Palestine off the map. Maps in the schoolbooks only ever show “the Land of Israel”, from the river to the sea.
She explained that not a single one of the schoolbooks included “any positive cultural or social aspect of Palestinian life-world: neither literature nor poetry, neither history nor agriculture, neither art nor architecture, neither customs nor traditions are ever mentioned.”
Of the rare times that Palestinians are mentioned, it is in an overwhelmingly negative and stereotypical fashion: “all [the books] represent [Palestinians] in racist icons or demeaning classificatory images such as terrorists, refugees and primitive farmers — the three ‘problems’ they constitute for Israel.”
She concluded that the children’s schoolbooks “present Israeli-Jewish culture as superior to the Arab-Palestinian one, Israeli-Jewish concepts of progress as superior to the Palestinian-Arab way of life and Israeli-Jewish behaviour as aligning with universal values.”

Are there double standards at play?

Grooming is indeed a serious claim - I do believe people are being fed distortions of the truth in order that they can be manipulated and used .

"A sustained campaign against the population of Israel indeed...."

History cannot be rewritten to suit other people's own agendas. Palestinians are the victim here, not the other way around. Everything is backed up by piles of evidence. There has been a sustained campaign of terror against the Palestinian people by Israel.

As I've already said, trying to dismiss this is not a pleasant thing to do. In doing so you are minimising every single thing that has happened. The lives lost and the lives ruined. Families destroyed. Homes destroyed. Businesses destroyed. Hopes and dreams destroyed.

Life is precious and it is very sad that some seem to place some lives as worth more than others.

Are they taught to kill them too because the 7/10 terrorists seemed to see that as a great achievement.

Yep.

There are specific "Children's Marches for Palestine" in America, also. The videos are widely available on YouTube.

You are now attempting to use my stating that marches are peaceful ~ peaceful enough for children to attend as something else.

Let's revert back to the mentioning of October in an attempt to divert away from the evidence of hatred taught to Israeli children. (Usual tactic)

Yes, I have seen countless amounts of that with people repeating what has been proven to be lies here, there and everywhere.

(Admitted to be false by the Israeli government)

I agree that Israel has done some heinous things. But it is faced with horrific terror groups ( supported by Iran) on practically all sides.
They do have a duty to protect/ defend their citizens. They failed to do this in October 7th and since Hamas has said they will commit other similar atrocities Israel has to do something….
The terrible suffering of the Palestinians is being used and exacerbated by Hamas and others.

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No understanding that your own “side” might be doing the same?

Well if we want to talk about killers there are clearly far more Israeli killers than Palestinian ones given the fact that year on year more Palestinians are killed than Israelis. Israel have conscription where presumably every young person is taught how to kill.

Agreed. The problem is that due to the extent of the terror inflicted on the Palestinian people by Israel, Hamas managed to come about. (They did not exist previously when the terror first started towards them.)

The other problem is that the Israeli government has openly, and repeatedly, announced their intentions to destroy the entire land. They are not seeking to simply dismantle Hamas (as they have also claimed) as their other statements also contradict this. The government is clearly going to continue doing what they are doing and this is one with state of the art technology that would be able to directly target specific individuals if they so wanted however they are deliberately attempting to make Palestine unlivable.

It has gone way beyond their claim of trying to protect themselves and their previous actions weren't of that nature, either. Hate breeds hate.

This is what you see from your view.

Well, what do you see about what was happening before October??

@Limeandsodaontherocks

Well I can certainly agree to that! I believe that the justification of Israel’s response is based on a distortion of reality.

I don’t think that the use of certain phrases shows that your friends are being groomed. It doesn’t show that relationships are being built for the purpose of exploitation.

Of course social media can be an echo chamber and lead people without critical reasoning skills to not consider other view points. And while I am not a great fan of social media and believe it can be used to manipulate popular opinion, it is also an important tool which helps ensure public narrative is not solely controlled by those with power.

I would actually say that your views are quite extreme.