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Conflict in the Middle East

ICJ: SA Genocide Case vs. ISR - part 2

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HeidiInTheBigCity · 15/01/2024 07:50

1st thread is full - here comes part 2!

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Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 11:56

@BelleHathor thank you
Whatever the outcome, well done go South Africa for taking a stance for the Palestinians

anotherlevel · 26/01/2024 11:59

Thank you @BelleHathor I was just coming on to ask if anyone had a link.

Whatever the outcome, well done to SA for taking this on. And hope it has an impact.

Desertrose2023 · 26/01/2024 12:03

Here’s hoping for 9 measures, although trying to manage expectations that we will probably get 2 or 3!

BelleHathor · 26/01/2024 12:03

@Parkingt111 Fully agree, love and thanks to South Africa for daring to get the atrocities on the record❤

EasterIssland · 26/01/2024 12:03

Desertrose2023 · 26/01/2024 12:03

Here’s hoping for 9 measures, although trying to manage expectations that we will probably get 2 or 3!

hopefully as many as are needed to stop this crazy and unjustified killing of civilians.

EasterIssland · 26/01/2024 12:04

Thank you SA

Desertrose2023 · 26/01/2024 12:05

Anyone else having trouble with the footage? It keeps stalling

HeidiInTheBigCity · 26/01/2024 12:06

Desertrose2023 · 26/01/2024 12:05

Anyone else having trouble with the footage? It keeps stalling

Same here - switch to Aljazeera EN on Youtube, that works!

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Desertrose2023 · 26/01/2024 12:07

HeidiInTheBigCity · 26/01/2024 12:06

Same here - switch to Aljazeera EN on Youtube, that works!

Thank you !

inkworks273 · 26/01/2024 12:08

Nervous.

AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:09

I've been watching Al Ajzerra from the start of judgement. Apparently the decision will come in around 45 mins or so.

Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 12:10

Judge Joan E. Donoghue has sat down in the ICJ and begun the court order. She began by laying out the Hamas attacks on the 7 October and how Israel responded. Judge Donoghue mentioned “massive casualties” and “extensive destruction” in Gaza.

Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 12:10

AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:09

I've been watching Al Ajzerra from the start of judgement. Apparently the decision will come in around 45 mins or so.

Thanks

Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 12:10

Guardian is doing written updates it seems

HeidiInTheBigCity · 26/01/2024 12:11

Now talking to one of the points in the ISR defense, specifically the existence of a dispute.

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AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:12

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 20:08

If they request Israel to stop , does Israel have to stop ? Or can they ignore it? What are the consequences of a decision in favor of SA?

Not sure.

Did they ask genocides to stop in the past and did those stop. Thinking Dafur?

Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 12:13

AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:12

Not sure.

Did they ask genocides to stop in the past and did those stop. Thinking Dafur?

It's legally binding but they have no way of enforcing it

BelleHathor · 26/01/2024 12:14

Court finds prima facie that there is a dispute between the parties. 1st hurdle overcome by SA.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 26/01/2024 12:15

Jurisdiction confirmed!

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BelleHathor · 26/01/2024 12:17

Court finds prima facie that SA has standing to submit the case. 2nd hurdle overcome.

AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:21

Palestinians are 'a protected group '

BelleHathor · 26/01/2024 12:25

for the article to apply there must be intent to destroy a substantial part, must be significant, Palestinians are a distinct protected group under article 2,
military operation conducted resulted a number of deaths and injuries, destruction of homes, civilian infrastructure, 63000 injuries, 27500 deaths, 1.7 million internally displaced. UN undersecretary general " Gaza has become a place of death and despair...", WHO reported from North Gaza, 93% is facing crisis levels of hunger and disease.

Parkingt111 · 26/01/2024 12:26

Now mentioning how a entire generation of children are left traumatised

HeidiInTheBigCity · 26/01/2024 12:26

Congrats to Gallant! The "human animals" statement has made it onto the especially noteworthy statements list!

And Herzog for his "entire population" one.

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AliceA2021 · 26/01/2024 12:27

It sounds like they are swaying towards
SA . Or am I mishearing?

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